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    Posted: 10 Sep 2011 at 10:16am

Being a bit of a jazz noob I only have two Coltrane albums, "Blue Train" and 'A Love Supreme" (probably the most obvious choices)
Love both, need more. Where do I start?
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Hey! Perhaps Giant Steps - another classic. My Favourite Things is great too (there are so many of course, and other members will know much more than me as I don't have dozens of John's albums)

If you wanna go for his more Free-Jazz-ish stuff  Ascension is worth a look and finally, if you don't have it already - Miles Davis' Kind of Blue features some great Coltrane.

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^I second Giant Steps and My Favorite Things, essential jazz/Trane stuff.

If you want more of his early stuff, hard bop, check Traneing In with the Red Garland Trio, or Coltrane (from 1957).

Others I really like and recommend: Africa/Brass, Coltrane's Sound, Coltrane Jazz, First Meditations, Live at Birdland.
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Well clearly, eventually I will need the whole discography Smile
Will start with the Giant Steps and My Favorite Things

Miles I know a bit better, think I have 15 albums or so by the man.
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Not mentioned already, I really love Ole Coltrane.

Giant Steps
, Ascension, Meditations, My Favourite Things and Transition are all much loved by me.
"Anyone can make the simple complicated. Creativity is making the complicated simple" (Charles Mingus).
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Check this out if you get the chance:



Marvelous, in my opinion.
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^ Woah, I can't believe I've never heard this album, thank you, Logan. Ordering it as soon as I can.
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Smile
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^Nice.

Regarding the one I posted, that like part of my favourite track off of the album.  It also has this, which doesn't excite me nearly so much.







Edited by Logan - 30 Oct 2011 at 7:42pm
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Ive found that just about any album with Coltrane's name on it up until 1965 is very good. Anything after that is up to you depending on your tastes, since his music started to become more abstract.
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Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Ive found that just about any album with Coltrane's name on it up until 1965 is very good. Anything after that is up to you depending on your tastes, since his music started to become more abstract.


This.

I would definitely recommend Giant Steps as a starting point. I quite enjoy Soultrane as well, but I wouldn't call that one as essential.
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all of the above, also Settin' the Pace,  and for live I'd suggest One Down,One Up and an Italian issue i Miti del Jazz: 5 -- http://miti-del-jazz.ilsole24ore.com/johncoltrane.html

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Originally posted by supertwister supertwister wrote:


Being a bit of a jazz noob I only have two Coltrane albums, "Blue Train" and 'A Love Supreme" (probably the most obvious choices)
Love both, need more. Where do I start?
 
well, the album that resembles most A Love Supreme is IMHO First Meditations
 
Obviously linked to Meditations and being a sort of first draft of his free-jazz album, First Meditations is much muxch more like ALS, especially when it comes to the dissonance. and musicality.
 
 
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....

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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by supertwister supertwister wrote:


Being a bit of a jazz noob I only have two Coltrane albums, "Blue Train" and 'A Love Supreme" (probably the most obvious choices)
Love both, need more. Where do I start?
 
well, the album that resembles most A Love Supreme is IMHO First Meditations
 
Obviously linked to Meditations and being a sort of first draft of his free-jazz album, First Meditations is much muxch more like ALS, especially when it comes to the dissonance. and musicality.
 

Agreed. That and Transition are great successors to A Love Supreme, although they were released when Trane had passed away.
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^^^
 
I always meant to check Transitions.... I guess it'll be ASAP...
 
Thanks for the reminder... Wink
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So Ole Coltrane is worth checking out? I'll definitely do so.
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Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

So Ole Coltrane is worth checking out? I'll definitely do so.
 
I have had it on order for a few weeks, and am looking forward to it greatly, only heard one track but I am convined it will be great
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

 
well, the album that resembles most A Love Supreme is IMHO First Meditations
 

just gave this one a listen and by golly im impressed
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First Meditations is good. For some reason, Meditations didn't do much for me.
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The Impulse! album Coltrane (1962), especially "Out of this World" 14 minutes of heaven. "Tunji" and "Miles Mode" worthy as well. great underrated album.
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