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darkshade ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Mar 2011 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 1973 |
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Allen Vizzutti - Classic Fusion/Third Stream (his album "Skyrocket" includes Chick Corea, Bunny Brunel, and others (Bunny Brunel is also missing from the archives))
![]() http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ4RvAoE9sc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLfCsVIWT9M&feature=related Back Door - Classic Fusion or Avant-Garde Jazz? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJODInAKn4k http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5095 Béla Fleck & The Flecktones - World Fusion? Classic Fusion? Post-Fusion Contemporary? Big Gigantic - DJ/Hip-Hop Jazz or Nu-Jazz? http://www.myspace.com/biggigantic Caribbean Jazz Project - World Fusion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzb48QZ-8TU http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Jazz_Project Ron Kerber - post-bop http://www.dreamboxmedia.com/kerber.htm (unfortunately, this was the best link i could find) check 'em out, i think they all deserve a place at JMA Edited by darkshade - 14 Mar 2011 at 6:35pm |
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js ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site admin Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 34714 |
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Thanks Mike, I'm checkin em out. I was just thinking of Bela the other day, I didn't think he was here and sure enough...
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darkshade ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Mar 2011 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 1973 |
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the band, yes.
i dont know Bela Fleck's solo stuff, never got around to checking it out. I know he played with Chick Corea on that one album a couple years back, but i dont know what his output sounds like. I noticed Victor Wooten was here and figured I'd check to see if BF&TFT were too. Check out Allen Vizzutti, "Skyrocket" (1995 i think?) is one of the best fusion albums from the 90s, and has some killer bass lines. Edited by darkshade - 14 Mar 2011 at 7:03pm |
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darkshade ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Mar 2011 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 1973 |
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You can download all of Big Gigantic's albums and EPs for free on their myspace. My favorite album is "A Place Behind The Moon". They have the funky electronic beats mixed with techno/house sounds, but lots of improv, particularly from the sax
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js ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site admin Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 34714 |
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Yeah Mike, all the suggestions are good, but I'm going to pass on Big Gigantic. I hear the sax solos, but the beats and music aren't jazz. All of our DJ jazz guys are playing real jazz, they just do it with turntables plus instruments.
Thanks for the suggestions, the others will get added soon. Back Door is hard to classify, equal parts JR Rock, AG and Fusion, I'll probably see what Slava thinks, he likes this kind of noisy European hippie music. ![]() |
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js ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site admin Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 34714 |
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Actually Back Door should maybe go in JR Improv. I don't know if you have checked out that genre, but its for music influenced by AG Jazz. and other things like that.
Thats where Fred Frith, Henry Kaiser and ROVA are.
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darkshade ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Mar 2011 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 1973 |
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i just cant win with the electronic/DJ/hip-hop type stuff ![]() ![]() Edited by darkshade - 14 Mar 2011 at 7:52pm |
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js ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site admin Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 34714 |
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If we drop our guard for half a second this place will be crawling with DJs
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darkshade ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Mar 2011 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 1973 |
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haha i only know a half dozen artists i was just trying to see if the ones i knew fit
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js ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site admin Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 34714 |
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Allen Vizzutti is an interesting mix of 3rd Stream and a sort of pop fusion.
We'll be nice and start him off in 3rd Stream, but some of his albums are tagged Crossover by All Music.
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darkshade ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Mar 2011 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 1973 |
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honestly most of the stuff ive heard by him is classical/third stream
the album "Skyrocket" is mostly jazz-rock/funk. A couple tracks are surely pop-fusion. i wish i could show you another track. Also, that version of Zig Zag is lackluster compared to the studio version (which actually has Chick Corea, Bunny Brunel, and Joe Farrell on it) **EDIT** check out Skyrocket - http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1124503/a/Skyrocket.htm Edited by darkshade - 14 Mar 2011 at 9:16pm |
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darkshade ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Mar 2011 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 1973 |
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btw does the Bela Fleck page include The Flecktones?
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js ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site admin Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 34714 |
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Well, you'll probably be the one tagging them, so its your call.
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darkshade ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Mar 2011 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 1973 |
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true, if not tonight, tomorrow i'll most likely be going on an "adding albums" binge for a lot of artists
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js ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site admin Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 34714 |
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Let Phil import them first, that will save you some work. Flecktones go with Mr Fleck.
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darkshade ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Mar 2011 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 1973 |
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alright. i'll just wait til tomorrow i guess. Maybe i'll write up some reviews. i only have 2
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js ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site admin Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 34714 |
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If you feel like adding albums, there are tons or em missing from discogs all over this site.
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snobb ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Location: Vilnius Status: Offline Points: 29003 |
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I agree with John there - Back Door are close to Post 70s Eclectic Fusion by their sound and aesthetics, but they broke up in 1977 (ok, they have two later reunions) , so chronologically it wouldn't be true decision to put them into "post 70s" section. Than - possibly the best another version -JR Improv..
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snobb ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Location: Vilnius Status: Offline Points: 29003 |
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From what I heard, main difference between Bella Fleck solo and him with Flecktones is with band he plays fusion and solo he plays post-bop,etc. (not fusion).
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js ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site admin Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 34714 |
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Individual tagging of albums can take care of that.
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