Suggestions for New Additions (Part 1)
Printed From: JazzMusicArchives.com
Category: Site News, Newbies, Help and Improvements
Forum Name: Suggest new bands/artists to JMA
Forum Description: Suggest, create polls, and classify new bands you would like included on Jazz Music Archives
URL: http://www.JazzMusicArchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76
Printed Date: 26 Apr 2024 at 12:39am
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 10.16 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: Suggestions for New Additions (Part 1)
Posted By: darkshade
Subject: Suggestions for New Additions (Part 1)
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 6:31pm
Allen Vizzutti - Classic Fusion/Third Stream (his album "Skyrocket" includes Chick Corea, Bunny Brunel, and others (Bunny Brunel is also missing from the archives))  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ4RvAoE9sc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ4RvAoE9sc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLfCsVIWT9M&feature=related" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLfCsVIWT9M&feature=related Back Door - Classic Fusion or Avant-Garde Jazz? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJODInAKn4k" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJODInAKn4k http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5095" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5095 Béla Fleck & The Flecktones - World Fusion? Classic Fusion? Post-Fusion Contemporary? Big Gigantic - DJ/Hip-Hop Jazz or Nu-Jazz? http://www.myspace.com/biggigantic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/biggigantic Caribbean Jazz Project - World Fusion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzb48QZ-8TU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzb48QZ-8TU http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Jazz_Project" rel="nofollow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Jazz_Project Ron Kerber - post-bop http://www.dreamboxmedia.com/kerber.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.dreamboxmedia.com/kerber.htm (unfortunately, this was the best link i could find) check 'em out, i think they all deserve a place at JMA ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm |
Replies:
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 6:58pm
| Thanks Mike, I'm checkin em out. I was just thinking of Bela the other day, I didn't think he was here and sure enough... |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 7:02pm
|
the band, yes. i dont know Bela Fleck's solo stuff, never got around to checking it out. I know he played with Chick Corea on that one album a couple years back, but i dont know what his output sounds like. I noticed Victor Wooten was here and figured I'd check to see if BF&TFT were too. Check out Allen Vizzutti, "Skyrocket" (1995 i think?) is one of the best fusion albums from the 90s, and has some killer bass lines. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 7:05pm
|
You can download all of Big Gigantic's albums and EPs for free on their myspace. My favorite album is "A Place Behind The Moon". They have the funky electronic beats mixed with techno/house sounds, but lots of improv, particularly from the sax
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 7:30pm
|
Yeah Mike, all the suggestions are good, but I'm going to pass on Big Gigantic. I hear the sax solos, but the beats and music aren't jazz. All of our DJ jazz guys are playing real jazz, they just do it with turntables plus instruments. Thanks for the suggestions, the others will get added soon. Back Door is hard to classify, equal parts JR Rock, AG and Fusion, I'll probably see what Slava thinks, he likes this kind of noisy European hippie music.  |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 7:35pm
|
Actually Back Door should maybe go in JR Improv. I don't know if you have checked out that genre, but its for music influenced by AG Jazz. and other things like that. Thats where Fred Frith, Henry Kaiser and ROVA are.
|
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 7:51pm
i just cant win with the electronic/DJ/hip-hop type stuff   ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm |
js wrote:Posted By: js
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 8:28pm
If we drop our guard for half a second this place will be crawling with DJs 
|
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 8:50pm
|
haha i only know a half dozen artists i was just trying to see if the ones i knew fit
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 9:01pm
|
Allen Vizzutti is an interesting mix of 3rd Stream and a sort of pop fusion. We'll be nice and start him off in 3rd Stream, but some of his albums are tagged Crossover by All Music.
|
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 9:11pm
|
honestly most of the stuff ive heard by him is classical/third stream the album "Skyrocket" is mostly jazz-rock/funk. A couple tracks are surely pop-fusion. i wish i could show you another track. Also, that version of Zig Zag is lackluster compared to the studio version (which actually has Chick Corea, Bunny Brunel, and Joe Farrell on it) **EDIT** check out Skyrocket - http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1124503/a/Skyrocket.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1124503/a/Skyrocket.htm ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 9:14pm
|
btw does the Bela Fleck page include The Flecktones?
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 9:15pm
|
Well, you'll probably be the one tagging them, so its your call.
|
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 9:17pm
|
true, if not tonight, tomorrow i'll most likely be going on an "adding albums" binge for a lot of artists
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 9:20pm
Let Phil import them first, that will save you some work. Flecktones go with Mr Fleck.
|
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 9:37pm
|
alright. i'll just wait til tomorrow i guess. Maybe i'll write up some reviews. i only have 2
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 10:01pm
If you feel like adding albums, there are tons or em missing from discogs all over this site. 
|
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 4:31am
I agree with John there - Back Door are close to Post 70s Eclectic Fusion by their sound and aesthetics, but they broke up in 1977 (ok, they have two later reunions) , so chronologically it wouldn't be true decision to put them into "post 70s" section. Than - possibly the best another version -JR Improv..
|
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 4:36am
From what I heard, main difference between Bella Fleck solo and him with Flecktones is with band he plays fusion and solo he plays post-bop,etc. (not fusion).
|
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 6:41am
Individual tagging of albums can take care of that.
|