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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote idlero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Apr 2011 at 9:54am
Phronesis are considered at least part British
Neil Cowley is also British, I liked his 2010 album
Andy Shepperd's Movements In Colour  is also very good
I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ...
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Julie Tippets-Driscoll's two album Sunset Glow and 1969 are astounding as well.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ricochet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Apr 2011 at 6:21am
Not including bands from  Canterbury, Jazz-Fusion or Prog cuts off quite a lot of the bands I heard and like (of which Soft Machine and Colosseum would be the most impressive).

Yes, I do think Tippett's first two albums are very good. It gets very weird from there on, even for free-jazz standards. I've kept some other albums in my collection (Mujician, something with Louis Moholo, the very heavy sessions of A Loose Kite in a Gentle Wind Floating with Only My Will for an Anchor, ending with a piece dedicated to Mingus...), but I'm not too impressed. His piano improvisations turn profoundly shardy.

Elton Dean (Ninesense) should follow soon.
I will also approach Evan Parker's discography sooner or later.

Nationality aside, McLaughlin and British jazz do not compute for me.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote harmonium.ro Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Apr 2011 at 5:43am
I know Rico loves Keith Tippett's albums, but I'll let him talk about them as I haven't heard any. 
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Originally posted by Hawkwise Hawkwise wrote:

Originally posted by The Manticore The Manticore wrote:

Then there is always Pentangle


Good call Folk/Jazz at its very Best
 
yup, Danny  Thompson is simply an awesome Contrabass player... He almost singlehandedly gives the jazz edge in Pentangle
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I already said Led Bib
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote snobb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Apr 2011 at 1:52am
Originally posted by Hawkwise Hawkwise wrote:

Biggest Name in British Jazz at the Moment i guess would be  Jamie Cullum  not really my cup of tea but then again cant say i have heard much of his music .




Jamie Cullum is in British scene similar to Kenny G. in American, so - it's just more question of tasteLOL.


Speaking about more modern British jazz (or related)  two names could be mentioned  - Led Bib and TrioVD.
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John Surman is one of my favourites
I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Apr 2011 at 11:17pm
Phil Miller's In Cahoots, particularly album All That

..and I disagree that rock's main artists come from outside the U.S.   America invented, perfected and continues to produce the best rock bands in the world.  I'm not talkin' pop-rock or metal or any other variation, but the best, the most authentic rock 'n roll in all its ugly glory, came and continues to come from North America.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Abraxas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Apr 2011 at 6:34pm
Originally posted by Hawkwise Hawkwise wrote:

http://www.johnetheridge.com/zappa/index.htm

And there is this to Thumbs Up




Oh yes! I've never heard Zappatistas, but I've always been fan of Etheridge's guitar style, his outstanding performance on British Tour '75 by Soft Machine is a must.
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Originally posted by Hawkwise Hawkwise wrote:

http://www.johnetheridge.com/zappa/index.htm

And there is this to Thumbs Up





Nice! Someday I will listen to it .
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Prog Geo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Apr 2011 at 6:28pm
Yes. He's British. In an interview he has said that before starting love jazz he was listening to heavy metal. Also, I agree with David that Jamie Cullum is not really of my taste. Maybe because his compositions have a poppier side.

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"If you're trying to be hip, be hip." - Miles Davis
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Originally posted by Hawkwise Hawkwise wrote:

Biggest Name in British Jazz at the Moment i guess would be  Jamie Cullum  not really my cup of tea but then again cant say i have heard much of his music .



Yeah, I know that guy, didn't know he was British though.

He's ok. 
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Originally posted by Abraxas Abraxas wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Of course how could I forget John McLaughlin, Pablo? he's in your sig 

I did specify to not mention jazz fusion, but oh well... Ouch

If you want real jazz, check out George Shearing, beautiful pianist in the style of Bill Evans.
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Biggest Name in British Jazz at the Moment i guess would be  Jamie Cullum  not really my cup of tea but then again cant say i have heard much of his music .


"If you're trying to be hip, be hip." - Miles Davis
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Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by Abraxas Abraxas wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

JM has done a lot more than just fusion Stern Smile It'd be one thing if i mentioned MO

Yes, I know. But if I had mentioned McLaughlin initially, everyone would have thought that I'd been wanting British fusion. 

Since they already mentioned stuff like Brand X, Hatfield & the North. They're fantastic bands for me, but that's not really what I'm looking for. 


sorry, but my knowledge on British Jazz is limited, so I hope to learn something. I know how you feel about fusion always being brought up

Hey, no problem, my British jazz is equally or even more limited than yours, that's why I made this thread, to see if there's any "high profile jazz musician from UK".

Well, the issue with fusion being brought up always is simply because that can also be talked on PA, you know hehe. I came here for something different, if it's possible. I won't mind commenting fusion polls or the like, but hopefully they won't be the same ones as in PA. 
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Originally posted by The Manticore The Manticore wrote:

Then there is always Pentangle


Good call Folk/Jazz at its very Best
"If you're trying to be hip, be hip." - Miles Davis
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Oh and of course there is Penguin Café Orchestra to
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Then there is always Pentangle
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