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Here is something for the true Bird lover..........The Complete Benedetti Recordings of Charlie Parker
 
 
Just his solos over two weeks with some added stuff from 1947. That is all he recorded not a complete number in sight just Bird solo after Bird solo. LOL
 
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That "Live at Massey Hall" is, I believe; the only known recorded album of that lineup.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jun 2011 at 11:29am
Originally posted by js js wrote:

^ I don't agree with that either, but whatever, it is supposed to be a thread about Bird.
 
We never do about much , uh?? LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote js Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jun 2011 at 10:43am
^ I don't agree with that either, but whatever, it is supposed to be a thread about Bird.
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Originally posted by js js wrote:

As a professional jazz pianist and teacher of jazz theory. I can assure you he is still probably the most influential pianist in modern jazz.

After Powell you get the quartal harmonies of McCoy Tyner.
Herbie and Bill Evans take that and add the 9th chord and altered chord sounds of the French composers.
Monk gets a bit AG with it and then Sun Ra and Cecil Taylor take that higher.
These days, modern jazz piano players have become very eclectic and some will pull from sources earlier than Powell.
Before Powell came along, Art Tatum was probably the most influential, and he is still an influence too.
 
OK, got your driftSmile...It was not my point anyway. Wink
 
All i was saying is that in terms of public popularity, Powell doesn't spring up as instantly as his four colleagues in that band, and even compared to the pianists I cited in my second intervention ...
 
 
Back to Bird, now.... Approve
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote js Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jun 2011 at 8:11am
As a professional jazz pianist and teacher of jazz theory. I can assure you he is still probably the most influential pianist in modern jazz.

After Powell you get the quartal harmonies of McCoy Tyner.
Herbie and Bill Evans take that and add the 9th chord and altered chord sounds of the French composers.
Monk gets a bit AG with it and then Sun Ra and Cecil Taylor take that higher.
These days, modern jazz piano players have become very eclectic and some will pull from sources earlier than Powell.
Before Powell came along, Art Tatum was probably the most influential, and he is still an influence too.


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Well although I've been subjected to jazz since around 5 (my father had around 200 vinyls from the 40's & 50's >> he was not really a 60's man), and I've listened to jazz since roughly 1985 (say 23-years old), I only became aware of powell's name in the late 90's, whe,n all of the other four names were household names (mine anyway) by the time I was 10 to 15..
 
 
I never claimed to make a judgment of value... I speak through my own experience and déjà-vécu...
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote js Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jun 2011 at 7:30am
Bud Powell invented modern jazz piano, open 7ths in the left hand, horn like lines in the right. This is how pianists have played jazz since he introduced this style, and this is the style they play to this day.
Any jazz piano player  will tell you, he is probably the most influential pianist of all.



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Originally posted by js js wrote:

^ what in the hell are you talking about? Bud Powell not a big name, since when?
 
compared to whomConfused?? Monk, Tatum, Ellington, Basie, Brubeck, Bill Evans , Hank Jones, etc...  (just to mention the pre-60's ones that recorded under their own names)
 
Don't get me wrong, I didn't say the man was a dwarf either... just that next to Dizzy, Mingus, Roach and Bird,  Powell's own star shines a little less (at least to moi)... that's all I meant!Wink
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^ Bud Powell not a big name, since when?

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Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Anyone aware of "The Quintet"?

This was a real band back in the late 40s or early 50s. I used to have a recording of them on my old computer, and it was some awesome bop of that period. But the lineup was fantastic

Charlie Parker - sax
Dizzy Gillespie  trumpet
Charles Mingus - bass
Bud Powell - piano
Max Roach - drums

talk about a "Supergroup of Jazz"
 
Definitely an all-star band StarStarStarStar.5 out of 5
 
The half-star is for the piano... Bud Powell is not as big a name in piano as his bandmates are in their own  respective instruments, though.
 
Is that Massey Hall (one of my fave venues anywhere in the world) concert the only thing they did together??
 
 
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Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz_at_Massey_Hall


Wow, thanks for the tip! Talk about a fantastic band
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote darkshade Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 1:03pm
I think that live album on the wikipedia site is the only album they have. It's the one I used to have (I wish I had gotten a hard copy). I remember it being very good however, and very good quality, considering it's a live album from the early 50s
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Can you tell me if The quintet had released a studio album?
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^ Wow! That is incredible band. Any idea what the album or albums names are?
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Anyone aware of "The Quintet"?

This was a real band back in the late 40s or early 50s. I used to have a recording of them on my old computer, and it was some awesome bop of that period. But the lineup was fantastic

Charlie Parker - sax
Dizzy Gillespie  trumpet
Charles Mingus - bass
Bud Powell - piano
Max Roach - drums

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 2:53am
I know I'm gonna get killed for this...
 
but when I joined JMA, one of the first thing I did was to rent Eastwood's Birdie movie to view (I had seen it in the theater back then), just to see if I still didn't really like the music...
Right around that time, I also saw once more Tavernier's Round About Midnight (with Dexter Gordon).... I much preferred the second movie....
 
 
Something makes not appreciate Bird's music.... toooooo old-sounding for me.
 
I still like the scene when Bird " borrowed" the other sax player's instruments to see if it was built the same way  and copuld play more than one note at a timeLOL >> priceless!
 
 
 
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