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Originally posted by Cannonball With Hat Cannonball With Hat wrote:

Soft Machine's Fourth just may be the best album ever recorded by anyone in the history of music.
 
3rd is still an album with the popularity. However, 4th is the album which is overwhelming for me. By the way, do you already checked the video of the rehearsal at the time of the production of 4th?
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I got Fourth a few weeks ago, and it hasn't really clicked for me yet. Virtually parts 1-4 were ok from what I remember. 
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I can slightly watch a rehearsal of "Teeth"....
 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cannonball With Hat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Dec 2011 at 3:57am
Originally posted by Kazuhiro Kazuhiro wrote:

Originally posted by Cannonball With Hat Cannonball With Hat wrote:

Soft Machine's Fourth just may be the best album ever recorded by anyone in the history of music.
 
3rd is still an album with the popularity. However, 4th is the album which is overwhelming for me. By the way, do you already checked the video of the rehearsal at the time of the production of 4th?
 
I do love 3rd as well. But there is just something so magical about 4th for me. The sound (in every way) is just perfect to my ears. It's quite difficult to explain...it just hits all the right spots. Shame it's so short though. I wish that lineup created more albums.
 
And no I haven't. I'll have to check it out thanks. Smile
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Yes. It is difficult to convey charm of 4th. The band gradually had leadership of Hugh Hopper and Mike Ratledge. I can hear it so that it is reflected by an album. I thought in particular that the album which showed the aspect was 4th. I think that there is the element of experimental element and free jazz in this album.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote snobb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Dec 2011 at 4:14am
I think 3rd is band's top album but 4th is just next near it in the same key. 

BTW anyone interested in even improved sound of 3rd needs to check live recordings of the same line up/ time. Some of them (as BBC Sessions) contain fantastic variations when Soft Machine's third line up plays together with Keith Tippett's reeds section - these few compositions sound even more interesting than Third studio version


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Originally posted by snobb snobb wrote:

I think 3rd is band's top album but 4th is just next near it in the same key. 

BTW anyone interested in even improved sound of 3rd needs to check live recordings of the same line up/ time. Some of them (as BBC Sessions) contain fantastic variations when Soft Machine's third line up plays together with Keith Tippett's reeds section - these few compositions sound even more interesting than Third studio version
 
Is it Keith Tippett's reeds section? wind instrument? Probably I thought that it said a meaning to play a melody.Big smile

Anyway, I did not yet check BBC version of Softs.
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I mean Tippett's collaborators without Tippett himself (Marc Charig,Lyn Dobson,Nick Evans) - plus Elton Dean,who is Softs member here.


You can find similar line-up on a few more compositions/releases as well, but here they sound excellent


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Oh. Yes. I checked it on a video before. It is interesting. The live version may be often beyond the quality of the album.
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such line up  plays not on all album,but on some compositions only, so if you'll check the samples just pay attention to that Wink
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Probably poll of Softs comes soon.Smile
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Originally posted by Kazuhiro Kazuhiro wrote:

I think that there is the element of experimental element and free jazz in this album.
 
I think thats what gives it the edge. I have found nothing else out there which sounds like 4th, which in itself is noteworth I think. That experimentalness is just what their sound needed IMO. And damn were they good at it.
 
The more I listen to Virtually the more I think it is Hopper's best piece. (at least of the ones I know)
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Originally posted by snobb snobb wrote:

I mean Tippett's collaborators without Tippett himself (Marc Charig,Lyn Dobson,Nick Evans) - plus Elton Dean,who is Softs member here.


You can find similar line-up on a few more compositions/releases as well, but here they sound excellent
 
This album is wonderful. The versions of Virtually and Fletcher's Blemish are beyond words good to my ears. The rest of the album is also a delight (except the opening volly, but then again psych pop was never my thing).
 
I went through a bit of a binge on SM eariler in the year. This is probably my favorite of the bunch. (Though Noisette and  Live At The Henie Onstad Art Centre 1971 are also quite excellent.) Still...none of them hit me like 4th.
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Another great release is Peel Sessions, not much different from BBC Radio Part 1 though (releases share 5 of 10 compositions)

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^ Not familiar with that one. But if it has the same lineup I'm sure it's a winner too.
 
Why did Wyatt have to fall out of that window?? Cry His drumming = Heart
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Originally posted by Cannonball With Hat Cannonball With Hat wrote:

^ Not familiar with that one. But if it has the same lineup I'm sure it's a winner too.
 
Why did Wyatt have to fall out of that window?? Cry His drumming = Heart

Yeah :(

He really missed his window of opportunity
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That was terrible, Matt. LOL

I listened to Ruth Is Stranger Than Richard yesterday and it was great.
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My second favorite Wyatt album, after his debut. I would have loved more music like that from him.
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I still haven't listened to his solo work.
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