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    Posted: 07 May 2011 at 1:35am

Miles' BB album was responsible for a few offshoot that can be directly attibuted to it

Indeed, if Herbie wasn't on the BB sessions, it's because he was on his honeymoon, but he clearly belongs to the BB legacy, and via Julian Priester, the link is solid.
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Musically, I can't think of RTF as a BB derivate.
So I'll vote for WR instead.

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Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Musically, I can't think of RTF as a BB derivate.
So I'll vote for WR instead.


True, but it is an offshot.
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Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Musically, I can't think of RTF as a BB derivate.
So I'll vote for WR instead.
Good point, Rico, but if you think about it, neither would Inner Mounting Flame be a real derivate.
 
But as Alex says it is an offshoot as well.
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WR just over Mwandishi
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Out of these, Mahavishnu without hesitation.
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Close call between Inner Mounting Flame and Weather Report.
 
I'll vote the former this time.
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Herbie Hancock being on BB is one of those "what if?" moments

anyway I went with Mwandishi
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Some might suggest MO is an off-shoot of Lifetime and Miles borrowed McLaughlin..................

and the first RTF album is more about Corea's Latin jazz upbringing.

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I lean toward 'Mwandishi' it has that dense or layered feel to it. Great question, at first I thought it was clear who I'd pick, but once I thought about it: HH
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Miles' BB album was responsible for a few offshoot that can be directly attibuted to it

Indeed, if Herbie wasn't on the BB sessions, it's because he was on his honeymoon, but he clearly belongs to the BB legacy, and via Julian Priester, the link is solid.


My favrourite on the list is Mwandishi, love the album.

I don't really get the Julain Priester reference, though.  Priester released one of my absolute favorite albums in JRF (anyone who knows me reasonably at all from PA will know how much I love Love, Love), but he wasn't on Bitches Brew that I know of.  I think you meant to say the Mwandishi group player, Bennie Maupin who is on Bitches Brew.  The Jewel in the Lotus is a wonderful album.  Another few albums I would have liked to see on this list that I think wonderful from Bitches Brew alumni are Wyane Shorter's fantastic Odyssey of Iska, Lenny White's Venusian Summer (the suite is so good), and Larry Young's Lawrence of Newark -- I could go on cause the BB alumni are amazing.

When i just saw the title, I thought you mean more infleunced by BB, in which case Donald Byrd's Electric Byrd is a fantastic album.
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Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Some might suggest MO is an off-shoot of Lifetime and Miles borrowed McLaughlin..................

and the first RTF album is more about Corea's Latin jazz upbringing.



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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Miles' BB album was responsible for a few offshoot that can be directly attibuted to it

Indeed, if Herbie wasn't on the BB sessions, it's because he was on his honeymoon, but he clearly belongs to the BB legacy, and via Julian Priester, the link is solid.


My favrourite on the list is Mwandishi, love the album.

I don't really get the Julain Priester reference, though.  Priester released one of my absolute favorite albums in JRF (anyone who knows me reasonably at all from PA will know how much I love Love, Love), but he wasn't on Bitches Brew that I know of.  I think you meant to say the Mwandishi group player, Bennie Maupin who is on Bitches Brew.  The Jewel in the Lotus is a wonderful album.  Another few albums I would have liked to see on this list that I think wonderful from Bitches Brew alumni are Wyane Shorter's fantastic Odyssey of Iska, Lenny White's Venusian Summer (the suite is so good), and Larry Young's Lawrence of Newark -- I could go on cause the BB alumni are amazing.

When i just saw the title, I thought you mean more infleunced by BB, in which case Donald Byrd's Electric Byrd is a fantastic album.
 
 
You're entirely right!!EmbarrassedEmbarrassed
 
It's Maupin I meant to speak of
 
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As for Byrd's Kofi and Ethiopian Knights, they're both excellent albums, but not really directly related to BB
 
 
I'll check out Lenny White Venusian Summer ASAP, though!!Wink
 
 
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^ That's good, because you've already rated it.  Wink
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Originally posted by js js wrote:

^ That's good, because you've already rated it.  Wink
 
This is downright weird!!ErmmUnhappy
 
I never heard any Lenny White albums (didn't even know he made some).... and I would've rated threeConfused of them??
 
Weirder thing is that these ratings don't show up in dark red in the second row of stars (for the personal rating)  under the albums...
 
What's up??OuchConfused


Edited by Sean Trane - 31 Oct 2011 at 4:48am
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....

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See if that has happened elsewhere and report it in the bugs section.
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