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peskypesky ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Apr 2011 Location: NYC Status: Offline Points: 10 |
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my God, those are some amazing albums. really wild that they all came out the same year. and very difficult to choose, but I have to go with "Kind Of Blue".
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Prog Geo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Apr 2011 Location: Athens (Greece) Status: Offline Points: 126 |
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Kind of blue! Classic album!
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Krilons Resa ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Apr 2011 Location: New England Status: Offline Points: 88 |
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Mingus Ah Um
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That shows you the power of music, that magician of magician, who lifts his wand, says his mysterious word and all things real pass away and the phantoms of your mind walk before you clothed in flesh.
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triceratopsoil ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Apr 2011 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 488 |
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I finally ended up voting for Ah Um, just over Sketches and Time Out
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Sean Trane ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Apr 2011 Location: Brussels Status: Offline Points: 789 |
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I went for Sketches, but the first three must be the toughest to sort out....
For Mingus, I much prefer Black saint to Ah Hum
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Kazuhiro ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Jan 2011 Location: Tokyo, Japan Status: Offline Points: 3774 |
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This is my personal opinion. "Kind Of Blue" seems to be overvalued a little for me.
This album might certainly be a very important album as the establishment of Modal Jazz. However, it is guessed that Miles Davis was judged the history and the situation of the Jazz and always evolved. It was felt that Kind Of Blue was the street point.
I have not heard a wonderful opinion so much for the Kilimanjaro album though In The Sky and Silent Way are popular.
I think that the Kilimanjaro album is very important in the process of going to the album in the 70's. And, Kind Of Blue is also similarly important. However, it is not felt so much that I am an album where it has the overwhelming might.
Am I wrong?
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triceratopsoil ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Apr 2011 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 488 |
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That's because Black Saint is possibly the best jazz album ever. Ah Um is still great, of course. |
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darkshade ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Mar 2011 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 1966 |
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You're not wrong. Though I agree Kind of Blue gets a little too much attention, and overshadows a lot of other classic Miles albums; unlike other overrated albums, I understand why it gets so much attention. I mean, I voted for it in this thread. But I agree, Miles went on to do even better things in the 60s, like with the second great quintet, and later with Miles In The Sky and Kilimanjaro, both are albums which eases right into his fusion period. But there is fantastic music on those 2 albums. I dont know which one is more important for his progression to the 70s albums, but they both played a part. By the time In A Silent Way came about, i think Miles was already deep in fusion mode, though still with the 60s "laid back" feel. It wasn't until Bitches Brew came that Miles was ready to really move forward, more than ever before. |
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dreadpirateroberts ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Jul 2011 Location: AU Status: Offline Points: 1836 |
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Sketches for me, KOB was tempting, as I am a big fan of it and Bill's piano, but 'Sketches' went beyond what I was expecting for Jazz (when I first heard it) and so I have to vote there
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MilesBeyond ![]() JMA Jazz Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 May 2011 Status: Offline Points: 28 |
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Some fantastic albums up there, but I've got to throw my lot in with the masses and say Kind of Blue. Even of the ones on the list, it may not be my favourite album to listen to all of the time, but it's transcendental music and it's incredible importance to the future of jazz easily put it at the top.
For an album to grab the attention of both casual fans and die-hard elitists alike is incredibly rare, but Kind of Blue is one of those albums that someone who's never heard jazz before can dig on the first listen, whilst learned and professional musicians are still, over fifty years later, trying to unpack all its secrets. |
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Logan ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Jan 2011 Status: Offline Points: 48 |
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What a great year. It's very close to me between The Shape of Jazz to Come, Mingus Ah Um, and Giant Steps, and I went with the Coleman -- a groundbreaking, I would say, album.
A couple of albums that I was expecting to see on the list are Sun Ra's Jazz in Silhouette -- I think it's a terrific album -- and the Art Blakey one from that year. |
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"Anyone can make the simple complicated. Creativity is making the complicated simple" (Charles Mingus).
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Matt ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Jazz Reviewer Joined: 16 Jan 2011 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 2525 |
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Kind of Blue for me
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Logan ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Jan 2011 Status: Offline Points: 48 |
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I'm probably strange this way, but Kind of Blue, though I certainly like it, is one of my least favourite classic Miles Davis albums. I much prefer Sketches of Spain off the list, though it was released in 1960 and recorded in 1959 and 1960, so I don't think I'd include it in the list.
I think If I had to choose, my two favourite Davis years for his releases are 1967 and 1974 for Sorceror and Nefertiti and Big Fun and Get Up With it. |
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"Anyone can make the simple complicated. Creativity is making the complicated simple" (Charles Mingus).
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idlero ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP member Joined: 07 Apr 2011 Status: Offline Points: 2158 |
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Don't bet , you'll lose, I like 'Bitches Brew' better |
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I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ...
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darkprinceofjazz ![]() JMA Jazz Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Apr 2011 Status: Offline Points: 78 |
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As do I, I was struck by the hard to digest comment, I took that to mean is was a tough listen, or not accessible, tastes vary I realize, but I always considered Kind of Blue to have a very contemporary vibe.
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idlero ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP member Joined: 07 Apr 2011 Status: Offline Points: 2158 |
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^ At first "Kind Of Blue" was really a tough listen , not anymore , but even now I don't enjoy listening to it( I never feel the urge to put it in the player and listen to it, I just do it as a mean of 'self training') while I enjoyed 'Bitches...' from 1st listen(even if it happened some 10 years( of jazz listening) later).
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I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ...
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darkprinceofjazz ![]() JMA Jazz Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Apr 2011 Status: Offline Points: 78 |
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Edited by darkprinceofjazz - 25 Dec 2011 at 10:27am |
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Kazuhiro ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Jan 2011 Location: Tokyo, Japan Status: Offline Points: 3774 |
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Of course I thought that the opinion varied. The jazz of this time still had a big demand for entertainment for at least Japan. Probably the mode jazz and the free jazz were for a fan of the jazz. Of course I was going to say that "KOB" was the album which was very important to jazz and Miles Davis. And "KOB" might have become the turning point for jazz and Miles Davis. This is because it felt that I called this album overestimate when there is the part of the passage point in a trip of the music of Miles Davis. In any case it is certain that "KOB" is a splendid album.
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Sean Trane ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Apr 2011 Location: Brussels Status: Offline Points: 789 |
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I kind of agree with you While for most mainstream music fans, the gentle almost uncommiting KOB would be easier to get into than the almost-obtuse BB... BUT.... for experimented music fans (like most of us progheads), BB is the easier one to like instantanly (was my case), while KOB might just be an acquired taste... I certainly had to wait a few years to dig it..... SOS was a much more direct hit for me. ..
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my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
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