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    Posted: 05 Apr 2012 at 9:13pm
This will not hurt, it does not corrupt you and you sure won't land up in Hell listening to it. I have been playing Salsa, Son, Latin Jazz since I arrived even at PA. Nobody seems to notice except John and I can't understand why because there is some fab yeah, Rockin' and Jazzin' stuff. 
 
Anyway I am going to leave just four tabs if you would like to listen to them. They come highly recommended.
 
1.  Larry Harlow's,  "La Cartera"  this baby rocks, this is one of the songs that got me hooked on Salsa. From Larry's "Salsa" album.
 
 
 
2. Markolino Dimond........these two are from his 'Brujeria" album ( also released under Angel Canales' name as "Mas Sabor" later). They knew it was good but nobody really picked up on it back then.That's why the re-release.
 
Title number "Brujeria". listen to the groove underpin from this blokes piano on this, not to mention the solo plus the trombone and trumpet kick in
 
 
and another from Markalino from the same album. This is the one where mid-song he inserts "three blind mice' into his piano solo
 
Wonderful stuff.  He was a hopeless junkie and what a damn waste. Killed him in the end.
 
 
3. Last but not least, one most will already know but this from the originator himself   Tito Puente and it is of course  "Oy Como Va"
 
This one is Live from 1993............it's gotta be Live
 
 
No better man for a whacking a timbale than Tito.
 
Hope you enjoy and if you want some more cherrys from the sixties and seventies in Afro Cuban. I will glady put more up.
 
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Thank you for sharing a video. I enjoyed these samples. Still, I cannot follow the overwhelming knowledge that Matt has. Please approve it.LOL

When a documentary film of Buena Vista Social Club was shown before in Japan, Afro/Cuban slightly became the topic. However, it was a temporary topic. However, I liked Afro/Cuban music before.

I put my favorite here.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote js Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Apr 2012 at 12:21am
Sounds great Matt, I love that stuff. Some of my favorites include Tito, Eddie Palmieri, Mongo and Ray Baretto.
I like that classic style you go for, that's my favorite too. That era of Afro-Cuban goes well with dub reggae from that same era, there is a similarity.
Kazu's second link (Irakere) had some funky exotica flavor with the early analog synth.
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Yes. I like music of Mongo Santamaria, too. And I was really taught Perez Prado by my father at time of the childhood.

And the video of Tito Puente which Matt put was wonderful. I enjoyed it in comparison with Santana version immediately.
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Great music!
I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Matt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Apr 2012 at 3:17pm
Glad you all liked them. I will put a few more today or tomorrow.
 
I much prefer Tito's original version of "Oy Como Va" these days, Kazuhiro but still look forward to hearing Santana's when I play the album. I loved Santana's early albums. The first two,
 
Ray Barretto rules, what else can you say, he was fabulous and having a real hard Jazz leaning what more could you want. I love Eddie Palmieri, John but his brother Charlie just a little more. Alegre Allstars, he was the main man behind those four great  (you could say Jam) early albums.( 1961 to 1966)  They just recorded them Live ( in studio) with just one take most of the time.. They still have not re-released them Disapprove There is a comp out there with a lot of the material but it ain't the same as the having the albums. "Lost And Found" is my favourite.
 
Thanks Idlero, hope you enjoyed. I will put up some Ray and Allegre All Stars in the next lot with some great modern Charanga from Tipica 73 with Afredo De La Fe's electric violin in the mix. See if I can find some Cheo Marquetti as well from the fifties (Cuban). He nailed the modern sound by adding that sleaze factor to his music. If not there is a fabulous take from Henry Fiol of one of Cheo's classic numbers off one of Henry's, Sar albums in the seventies.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote js Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Apr 2012 at 3:50pm
Yes, keep posting more, this could be a good ongoing thread. Cool
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Here are some more
 
First up, Alegre All-Stars Vol 3 "Lost And Found this is off. "Kako Y Palmieri" ....descarga with Jazz all over it. Charlie and Kako solo of course. Fabulous
 
 
You should hear this little driver of a guajira named of course "Guajira In "F", follows straight after the above descarga. Charlie plays one wicked little Latin style piano solo
 
 
 
 
Next,  Henry Fiol's classic take of the Cheo Marquetti tune "Oriente".........Hear the Cuban influence that Alfredo Valdes ( main man) inserted into his Sar label.
 
 


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I'll check some of this out for sure, just give me a while, I'm pretty slow of late hahaha
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Charley Palmieri sounds great as usual, but I believe your third sample is the same as the second one.
Good examples of style differences there, post some more, this thread could make a good reference.
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Originally posted by js js wrote:

Charley Palmieri sounds great as usual, but I believe your third sample is the same as the second one.
Good examples of style differences there, post some more, this thread could make a good reference.
Problem solved John. "Oriente" it is. Lucky somebody checked. Most likely thought I'd pasted but still had Alegre All Stars there.Embarrassed
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Okay this treat is Ray Barretto. Not you can't say much about Ray except he has done practically the lot before he passed away 6 years ago. I love his pre-eighties material the best with the slamming Salsa and Jazz all over it. Ray did even Jazz albums which was where he was more so at the end but the early stuff is a lot more slamming,wild and full on. Just how I like my Latin music.
 
Ray often pops up on those old Blue Note releases as a sideman with I suppose the most well known album being Kenny Burrell's, "Midnight Blue". Not Bad hey!
 
Ray also got stuck into the Boogaloo but this one below is almost psychedelic and not Bogaloo but all great Afro Cuban Jazz..............."Acid"
 
 
 
This one has that beautiful seventies feel with the string addition. Roberto Roena's number ten album "El Progreso". He did a similar Chicago thing by numbering his albums.
 
Title track "El Progreso"
 
 
I have been known to play this five times in a row. Fabulously presented and crafted. Listen to the timbale slam which only happens a few times just before the chorus. It is those little things that are all added to make this one cracker of a song which always keeps you hearing something new. It even has wah ,wah guitar under riding it at times. Particulary near the end.  As I said fabulous with the absolutely included.
 
 
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I love "Acid" its on many of my mix tapes. I need to get the full CD, I'm a little short right now, but maybe in a few months.

I have an idea, if you want, post some basic sons so we can start this at the roots and get an understanding of where this all starts. Then work our way up from there.
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Originally posted by js js wrote:

I love "Acid" its on many of my mix tapes. I need to get the full CD, I'm a little short right now, but maybe in a few months.

I have an idea, if you want, post some basic sons so we can start this at the roots and get an understanding of where this all starts. Then work our way up from there.
John, I have been trying to find some great ones that I have and YouTube comes up empty. I would love to put up Cheo Marquetti or Nicholas Menheim, who I searched for today actually.  I will search tomorrow for some good stuff. It is most likely though going to be some contempary bands doing some. YouTube does not  have the good old stuff pre sixties much.Geek. Surely I can find some Beny More though or Chano Pozo.
 
"The Buena Vista Social Club" is one superb cover of many a great Cuban number. When I bought the album with the first Afro Cuban All Stars release (as they were released together) I loved them. They kinda slaughtered the album for me though with it's popularity and they day I heard it described as Dinner Table Music Cry
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Reminds me of the 80s. Before there was smooth jazz, there was "Dinner Jazz".
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Chano Pozo's "Blen Blen Blen".  (1939) Does not get anymore classic than this for Cuban music.
Miguelito Valdes, vocals 
 
Listen to that old sound Hug
 
Now this one was a smash hit for Lucille Ball's hubbie, Desi Arnez but it was Miguelito Valdes who actually made it his signature song. Recorded a few versions with the first being Casino De La Playa  ( 1937 to 44 in that time span) and it was fairly formal but with each new version to follow things started to loosen up as with this one
 
 
 
Beny More often termed as the greatest sonero to hail from Cuba and with good reason. he personifies the island with its culture and music. He did a lot of Mexican films which most likely is the source for so many of his available music clips, just like this one going up.
 
 
"Ya Son Las Doce"
 
Would have been filmed around the mid to late fities in Mexico
 
None of this music is post 1960. All came before with Beny being the most modern of them.
 
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" Blen Blen Blen" is just incredible, I know this one well, that sound is something else. 

All three of these examples had a lot of jazz, were these sons before Dizzy's work with Chano, or after?
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Originally posted by js js wrote:

" Blen Blen Blen" is just incredible, I know this one well, that sound is something else. 

All three of these examples had a lot of jazz, were these sons before Dizzy's work with Chano, or after?
Before John, the band is Casino De La Playa who were really the first of the great Cuban orchestras. Miguelito Valdes was a boxer and as tough as Chano ( probaly why they were friends for all their lives) Miguelito paid for his funeral at the end.  You can hear that energy that Chano played congas within. Wasn't until about  7 to 8 years yet till meeting up with Dizzy.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote js Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jun 2012 at 5:24pm
That's interesting. I think the musicologists over play Dizzy's contributions. The Cubans were already playing jazz, he just picked up on what was already there.

All those mixolydian (major key with flat 7) type riffs in songs like Blen Blen will show up later in Jamaican ska/rock steady music. I love that connection between those two musics. I know you can hear it, its the sound of the island culture. 


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Another great thing is how the African music first infiltrated Cuba during the slave period and mixed with Spanish but was then taken back to Africa in the forties till now and mixed with their music which brings us to a lot of contempary styles of African music.

 
I am off to the footy soon but will start a thread if you like on the various genres and sub genres of African, Carribean, and Latin. You just don't realise how many there are.
 
Will also do a breakdown which will take a little time on the Son sub genres, Bolero. Guajira, Pregon, Afro Cubana, Son and the list goes on. How to pick them and with examples.
 
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