2011 likes and dislikes in jazz music |
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idlero
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I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ...
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darkshade
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With jazz, it's a little different. There isn't as much composing as classical, or prog, so it wouldn't take as much time to record an album than say a rock band. MAny jazz albums were recorded in 1 or 2 takes, many times by the entire band(s) |
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This should be a good one.
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That shows you the power of music, that magician of magician, who lifts his wand, says his mysterious word and all things real pass away and the phantoms of your mind walk before you clothed in flesh.
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Sean Trane
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In terms of composition, sure classical has an edge when it comes to large symphonic orchestra (although Big Bands..... ), but I'm not sure Schubert's quintet pieces took less composition efforts than say Brubeck's Time Out. They were vastkly different times as well, since recording studios didn't exist too, for classical, which means that they culd take years into finalizing an oeuvre without anyone noticing it (i thionk I'm breaking down wide-open doors, here)
As for composing in terms of rock, if you take the prog rock out of that realm, you'll find most compositions quite simple in terms of chord progressions.
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Albums didn't take long to record because jazz musos are great improvisers, unlike classical musicians (they couldn't improvize if their life depended on it), and in most rock circles, the musicianship is much lesser than in jazz. This is also why jazz artistes have such wide discographies as well.... cheap album production and quick recording meant that the labels could pump out sometimes up to four albums a year for an artiste... imagine this for Floyd or Madona...
So jazz albums took only one take or two....fine!!! But there isn't the effect-laden ultra-produced of most of these rock or pop products (beit Yes, Floyd or Michael Jackson and Madona)... and most of these rocker drug addicts, even when straight, couldn't get it right after the 15th take either, because they rarely rehearsed prior to recording sessions...And then you've got some groups that did composing during the studio sessions.
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my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
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snobb
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Stylish,pleasant and easy accessible solo piano album
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darkshade
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@ Sean Trane - I only mentioned composition in terms of Classical where almost everything is composed, whereas with Jazz, there is a large amount of improvisation involved. I wasn't talking about the level of composition some jazz tunes have (where some rival or even beat Classical)
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Sean Trane
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but I gather that the newer jazz generatioons are much cleaner in that regard (except for amy House of Whine) Edited by Sean Trane - 02 Jun 2011 at 2:56pm |
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my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
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idlero
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I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ...
Ken Burns |
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idlero
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IMO another average ECM piano trio release, didn't impress me at first hearing , it improved after a few more hearings but doesn't stand out from among other average piano trios releases |
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I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ...
Ken Burns |
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snobb
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Recent stuff in my playlist, Ken Vandermark has two new releases, one with Resonance and an OST with Predella Group, both not your usual Vandermark. Jazz that can open your senses, in fact.
Angelica Sanchez's piano solo album (A Little House) puts me off a bit, uneven album with both hollow and interesting compositions. Never made up my mind how I feel about toy piano music, either. Edited by Ricochet - 01 Jul 2011 at 8:05am |
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snobb
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I tried Angelica's album few times but didn't get that music, or better to say - it was interesting at first few minutes, but later I missed interest very soon
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Ricochet
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The other way around, second half makes me wonder... |
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snobb
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Interesting new release - combination of American and European avant-garde roots in one duo. Sounds really good but often on the edge of two worlds :
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Hey Slava, did you hear Chicago Odense Ensemble? I just added them to Post Rock on PA, but their album could also pass as one of the best Nu-Jazz albums of 2011.
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Ricochet
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^ I just listened to it for the first time yesterday. I feel the two main styles are a bit corrupting each other. Cool music, otherwise.
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snobb
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No, thanks I'll check them
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snobb
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Absolutely agree - in some moments it sounds almost annoying, but often - like unusual and attractive combination, a bit of scratching glass
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Ricochet
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Confused now, I was referring to Alex's COE, which you haven't heard yet, as you said above.
It might turn out the same with Shepp/Kuhn, but I have to hear it first. Edited by Ricochet - 05 Jul 2011 at 6:34am |
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