2011 likes and dislikes in jazz music
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Topic: 2011 likes and dislikes in jazz music
Posted By: idlero
Subject: 2011 likes and dislikes in jazz music
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 10:42am
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What do you like and what disapointed you in 2011 so far? I liked: Brad Mehldau's-Live In Marciac, Colin Stetson-Judges Helge Lien Trio-Natsukashii Iiro Rantala-Lost Heroes Joachim Kuhn-Chalaba Julia Hulsmann Trio-Imprint Avishai Cohen-Seven Seas disapointments: Magnus Ostrom-Thread Of Life Mathias Eick-Skala Marcin Wasilewski Trio-Faithful |
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 10:58am
| I have listened to very little jazz from 2011. Recommendations with samples are welcome! |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 11:01am
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harmonium.ro wrote:Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 11:04am
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Stetson's Warfare and Donny McCaslin's Perpetual Motion are top of the chart for me right now. There's also Mostly Other People Do The Killing with their Coimbra Concert, but you really have to stand through those two heavy hours, so it might fall on the next listens. Good stuff, otherwise: the new Book of Angels [Masada] with Banquet of the Spirits, Cantuaria & Frisell was nice, Helge Lien Trio disappointed me heavily two years ago, but now they're playing decent. Also, The Kilimanjaro Darkjazz Ensemble. On the prog / jazz-rock side, Planeta Imaginario have come with good compositions, but it's 80 souless minutes. My biggest disappointment so far was Avishai Cohen. So little substance and it's like hearing nothing but world music cliches in playing. -------------  
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 11:06am
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 11:22am
Absolutely agree with opinion on Cohen's album. Frisell's new one is pleasant and very refreshing (after his decades of bluegrass-country-fusion formula), but not too much original. Let say- more pleasant than interesting |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 11:55am
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the Frisell album intrigues me
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 12:27pm
I haven't even heard that many jazz albums!  It would take forever to make a list of over 2000 things I like and dislike, anyway.  Nah, in all seriousness, I agree with Alex and Mike, I haven't really heard 2011 jazz yet. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 12:33pm
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 12:33pm
| Actually I heard the new Avishai Coen which is good but in a world-pop way (so I find the disappointment of Rico and Slava perfectly justified) and the new Kilimanjaro Darkjazz Ensemble, which is great but I didn't think of it as "jazz". |
Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 12:34pm
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 12:43pm
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we should have a 2000's Jazz thread, especially for those looking to get modern jazz albums (like me). I always thought I had an ok selection until I came here
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Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 12:44pm
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 12:48pm
What are you doing, idlero? 
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Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 1:08pm
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I'm bored so I keep myself busy, while relistening to some good jazz pieces from 2011 Also this is a good opportunity to suggest some new artists who are missing ... Another one |
Posted By: andyman1125
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 3:20pm
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Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 4:05pm
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Posted By: triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 4:10pm
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JAZZ, Brian
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Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 4:12pm
It is jazz, though it's not on this site 
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Posted By: triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 4:16pm
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It is not jazz.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 4:17pm
Maybe it's jazz-related rock, but I don't remember it as such. |
Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 4:18pm
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Listen to it at 00:30, that is jazz... ------------- [FLASH WIDTH=200 HEIGHT=200]http://cdn.pimpmyspace.org/media/pms/c/ju/uq/qi/ctures_119.jpg[/FLASH] |
Posted By: triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 4:19pm
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No, that is a saxophone solo.
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Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 4:22pm
Which is very jazzy ------------- [FLASH WIDTH=200 HEIGHT=200]http://cdn.pimpmyspace.org/media/pms/c/ju/uq/qi/ctures_119.jpg[/FLASH] |
Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 7:15pm
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Likes
Henry Threadgill,..... This brings us 2
Hiromi .......Voice
Kurt Elling..........The Gate
Cassandra Wilson.........Silver Pony
Tito Puente Jr..........Got Mambo
Dislike
Bill Laswell..........Aspiration
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 7:27pm
Bruce Springsteen has big long sax solos in his music, a lot of 80s bands had a sax player, some original rock n' roll bands had a sax player; doesn't make them jazz ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm |
Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2011 at 2:10pm
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It was released in late 2010, but Soren Moller's newest album The Christian X Variations pretty good.
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Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2011 at 2:24pm
| Hiromi's Voice is a pretty good one |
Posted By: Krilons Resa
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 2:58pm
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So far, of the top of my head, I have enjoyed: Matthew Halsall - On The Go Darren Johnston - Cylinder Motif - Facienda Helge Lien Trio - Natsukashii Waiting for Liam Sillery's new album to drop tomorrow. Last year's Phenomenology was spectacular. I agree about the Avishai Cohen album. It sounds like he just keeps doing the same thing over and over again, vamp after vamp. I used to really dig his stuff but it hasn;t aged well imo. Once you've heard one of his albums, you have heard them all, for the most part anyway. I was also semi-disappointed with the new Omer Avital Quintet - Live At Smalls album. Not that it is bad. Not as good as his earlier recorded work but it may be just me listening to mostly more "out" stuff since the times when I couldnt get enough of him. ------------- That shows you the power of music, that magician of magician, who lifts his wand, says his mysterious word and all things real pass away and the phantoms of your mind walk before you clothed in flesh. |
Posted By: Sancho Panza
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 9:10pm
| Hiromi Uehara! |
Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 9:21pm
 Welcome to the site.
This thread waits for your opinion. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=100" rel="nofollow - http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=100
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Posted By: Krilons Resa
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 9:21pm
 This album is gonna be fantastic. ------------- That shows you the power of music, that magician of magician, who lifts his wand, says his mysterious word and all things real pass away and the phantoms of your mind walk before you clothed in flesh. |
Posted By: EatThatPhonebook
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2011 at 7:28am
| The only jazz stuff I've listened to is the new Colin Stetson. Definitely one of the best of the year! |
Posted By: Freddie Freeloader
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2011 at 12:13pm
I think what he is getting at is that a few elements in a rock song thrown in to sound like jazz, such as horns do not make somthing jazz. Jazz thas more to do with how the music is structured than the particular instruments that are used. The idea that every song that has horns in it is jazz is just plain wrong.
What differentiates that sax solo from a jazz sax solo is the context. It is obviously not improvised, a trait of most jazz solo's, the other instruments arn't playing jazz. Listen to the drums in that song while they are complex they obviously are not coming from the jazz tradition they are far too stiff. It is the rigidly composed nature of the song that seperates it from jazz and a quick listen reveals how different it really is from the style.
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Posted By: Freddie Freeloader
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2011 at 12:15pm
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^^^
that being sayed its a great solo and a great song. Its just a prog song not a jazz song
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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2011 at 12:34pm
| Akakabotu is a prog/jazz composition. |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2011 at 2:14pm
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Am I the only one who always hesitates to buy a modern jazz release, based on the cover "art"? They always seem like they're going to be smooth jazz, r&b, or something else like that. Obviously you can't judge a book by its cover, but I really don't like how many of them look.
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Posted By: triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2011 at 6:32pm
Yep, also, we already sort of tore poor Block apart for the Beardfish thing. A lot less politely than you did  .------------- http://www.last.fm/user/TullDerGraff" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2011 at 11:27pm
Well, it depends. If it's got a fricken walrusman or something on it, I'm more likely to buy it  awwwwww yeahhhhhhhh ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/TullDerGraff" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Freddie Freeloader
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2011 at 11:30pm
 I just felt like an explanation was in order so rather than just telling Block he is wrong. I would rather explain to him why I feel he is wrong so that he has an opportunity to argue against me and make his point....
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Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: 01 May 2011 at 12:08pm
 another 2011 release that I like: ------------- I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ... Ken Burns |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 13 May 2011 at 5:22pm
Where is this from?
I can't seem to be able to stand this kind of fusion anymore... |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 13 May 2011 at 5:31pm
I'm getting this. |
Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: 14 May 2011 at 1:16am
Iiro Rantala-Tears For Esbjorn from 'Lost Heroes',2011 ------------- I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ... Ken Burns |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 14 May 2011 at 4:30am
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Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: 15 May 2011 at 2:45pm
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Two nice 2011 releases, piano trios from Italy: 08 Trio-Live In Studio-free download at jamendo and Chat Noir-Weather Forecasting Stone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAOvisldAFU" rel="nofollow - ------------- I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ... Ken Burns |
Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: 17 May 2011 at 8:13am
I like  a mix of jazz,hip pop and electronica ------------- I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ... Ken Burns |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: 25 May 2011 at 2:06am
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Listening last evening to Nguyen Le's Songs of Freedom was the second worst experience of the year next to one of Boris' new albums.
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Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: 25 May 2011 at 6:08am
Agree entirely although I haven't listened to Boris ------------- I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ... Ken Burns |
Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: 29 May 2011 at 10:33am
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Didn't like Bill Frisell's 'Sign of life'
------------- I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ... Ken Burns |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 29 May 2011 at 10:56pm
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I dislike that I have gotten no 2011 jazz albums yet. I have my eyes on the new Hiromi album and the new Bela Fleck & The Flecktones albums
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 29 May 2011 at 11:12pm
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also that James Farm album with Joshua Redman
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 30 May 2011 at 2:04am
I heard both of them - IMO them both are quite good
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Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: 31 May 2011 at 2:07pm
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liked James Farm, not a fan of Bella Fleck's music
------------- I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ... Ken Burns |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 31 May 2011 at 2:12pm
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Usually I don't like Bela Fleck's music too much, but last album is better than his average work for me. Still same Americana+jazz though
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 31 May 2011 at 2:50pm
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I like BF&tFT. I dont have any of his solo stuff. ..BF&tFT remind me more of Classic Fusion, even though they're listed as World Fusion here. Victor Wooten one of the main reasons I listen to them
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Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: 31 May 2011 at 2:55pm
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Yep, BF's last album sounded more like World to me, which usually isn't a bad thing considering my tastes but this one didn't catch me.
------------- I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ... Ken Burns |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 31 May 2011 at 5:40pm
I'm always a couple years late with jazz albums, so I shouldn't hit 2011 before 2014
 Ity's a bit like for prog, most of the new releases can wait a while (and would longer, if I didn't have to make a list at the end of the year), with a few exception (Univers Zero or VdGG)... but the exceptions in jazz a much scracer. ------------- my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....  |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 31 May 2011 at 6:07pm
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yes, sober musicians are much more prolific, since they dont waste time with narcotics **EDIT** woops, I didn't realize that was part of your sig. I think the colors threw me off ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2011 at 1:16am
Sorry about that!!
This said, I don't think that jazzmen have any less problems with drugs than other types of musos. If Coltrane managed to kick it out, Parker & Miles didn't.
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Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2011 at 4:03am
 ------------- I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ... Ken Burns |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2011 at 11:50am
With jazz, it's a little different. There isn't as much composing as classical, or prog, so it wouldn't take as much time to record an album than say a rock band. MAny jazz albums were recorded in 1 or 2 takes, many times by the entire band(s) ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm |
Posted By: Freddie Freeloader
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2011 at 5:31pm
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Posted By: Krilons Resa
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2011 at 5:41pm
This should be a good one.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2011 at 1:31am
In terms of composition, sure classical has an edge when it comes to large symphonic orchestra (although Big Bands..... ), but I'm not sure Schubert's quintet pieces took less composition efforts than say Brubeck's Time Out. They were vastkly different times as well, since recording studios didn't exist too, for classical, which means that they culd take years into finalizing an oeuvre without anyone noticing it (i thionk I'm breaking down wide-open doors, here
)As for composing in terms of rock, if you take the prog rock out of that realm, you'll find most compositions quite simple in terms of chord progressions.
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Albums didn't take long to record because jazz musos are great improvisers, unlike classical musicians (they couldn't improvize if their life depended on it), and in most rock circles, the musicianship is much lesser than in jazz. This is also why jazz artistes have such wide discographies as well.... cheap album production and quick recording meant that the labels could pump out sometimes up to four albums a year for an artiste... imagine this for Floyd or Madona...
So jazz albums took only one take or two....fine!!! But there isn't the effect-laden ultra-produced of most of these rock or pop products (beit Yes, Floyd or Michael Jackson and Madona)... and most of these rocker drug addicts, even when straight, couldn't get it right after the 15th take either, because they rarely rehearsed prior to recording sessions...And then you've got some groups that did composing during the studio sessions.
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2011 at 4:15am
 Stylish,pleasant and easy accessible solo piano album
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2011 at 2:46pm
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@ Sean Trane - I only mentioned composition in terms of Classical where almost everything is composed, whereas with Jazz, there is a large amount of improvisation involved. I wasn't talking about the level of composition some jazz tunes have (where some rival or even beat Classical)
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2011 at 2:53pm
but I gather that the newer jazz generatioons are much cleaner in that regard (except for amy House of Whine )------------- my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones.... |
Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2011 at 9:52am
 ------------- I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ... Ken Burns |
Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 7:13am
 IMO another average ECM piano trio release, didn't impress me at first hearing , it improved after a few more hearings but doesn't stand out from among other average piano trios releases ------------- I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ... Ken Burns |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 7:37am
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 8:04am
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Recent stuff in my playlist, Ken Vandermark has two new releases, one with Resonance and an OST with Predella Group, both not your usual Vandermark. Jazz that can open your senses, in fact. Angelica Sanchez's piano solo album (A Little House) puts me off a bit, uneven album with both hollow and interesting compositions. Never made up my mind how I feel about toy piano music, either. -------------
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 8:32am
I tried Angelica's album few times but didn't get that music, or better to say - it was interesting at first few minutes, but later I missed interest very soon
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 8:33am
The other way around, second half makes me wonder... -------------
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 2:34am
Interesting new release - combination of American and European avant-garde roots in one duo. Sounds really good but often on the edge of two worlds : |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 4:55am
| Hey Slava, did you hear Chicago Odense Ensemble? I just added them to Post Rock on PA, but their album could also pass as one of the best Nu-Jazz albums of 2011. |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 6:25am
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^ I just listened to it for the first time yesterday. I feel the two main styles are a bit corrupting each other. Cool music, otherwise.
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 6:27am
No, thanks I'll check them
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 6:30am
Absolutely agree - in some moments it sounds almost annoying, but often - like unusual and attractive combination, a bit of scratching glass
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 6:34am
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Confused now, I was referring to Alex's COE, which you haven't heard yet, as you said above. It might turn out the same with Shepp/Kuhn, but I have to hear it first. -------------
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 6:35am
Now you need to listen Shepp/Kuhn just to compare
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 6:49am
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The funny thing is that Slava's description does fit C.O.E indeed. It is like scratching glass, but in a good way (for me at least).
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 7:47am
Saw Archie shepp last October at Middelheim Festival (Antwerp)
Kind of deceiving... partly because of his performance is a little down because of his Parkinson (I think that's what he's got), but also a very conventional set (at least for what the fans could expect from his discography
But he was followed by McCoy Tyner, so he (Archie) stood almost no chance. (I'd probably have left after 1/2h if it had been the other way around )
Still, it was nice to see a legend
What's this album like???(like the artwork, though) ------------- my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones.... |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2011 at 12:50am
I could have told you that ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2011 at 1:09am
I listen it again and again and I like it more and more. A bit strange though - cold technical Kuhn piano and Shepp's warm soulful and free sax over it. I believe some like it and others hate.
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2011 at 6:41am
Better than I expected - more adventurous than usual Liebman post bop, in big part avant garde jazz: |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2011 at 3:58pm
First listen. Kind of "meh". -------------
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2011 at 8:25am
 Really intriguing, this one, skipping from regular (for Fris) bluegrass to minimalist chamber music.  Just one of Evans' works this year, probably the most important. In fact, I'm going through all his '11 stuff, Kopros Lithos with Gustafsson/Fernandez was ok, Sum and Difference with Altieri/Pluta is more EAI and not really brilliant. I've still got High Society with Wooley to check. Ghosts really took me by surprise, after Evans' previous, two-hour-long heavy-spitting Nature/Culture. It has its tiny glitches or ghastly voices, as suggested, otherwise the game is pretty conventional. This could be the best "hard nu-jazz" sort of record for me since E.S.T.'s Leucocyte, but I have to give it more spins. -------------
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2011 at 4:09pm
| ^ I just got "Ghosts" too. |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2011 at 3:14pm
 Given the new school of crappy covers they adhere to, I could have easily never picked this album of theirs up. But I'm ultimately glad I did - sort of? It's definitely more interesting that I expected. Jazz with electronics - at least? (I was going to say nu-jazz, but I think that would be a pleonasm). Shouting it out to Alex, it's atypical and disjointed enough. For sure, this next one said less to me:  It does have its moments. |
Posted By: Polo
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2011 at 4:20pm
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I really loved Matana Robert's Coin Coin. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/matana-roberts--coin-coin-chapter-one-gens-de-couleur-libres.aspx -------------  That's Kenny G with Miles Davis on my avatar, by the way. |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2011 at 5:53pm
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I dislike that my copy of Hiromi's new album "Voice" hasn't arrived yet
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2011 at 5:56pm
Is that the real artwork? I have an album (or an EP, I dont remember) of theirs around somewhere. I believe Charlie Hunter is in that band, right? Either way, he's a ridiculous player. He plays an 8 string guitar, playing the guitar parts and bass parts (on the lower strings) at the same time. I recall the album of theirs I have was laid-back jazz-funk. Interesting they're going in an electronic direction. |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2011 at 7:15pm
At least that's how it sounded to me, moderately charged with beats and "bytes". Yes to the artwork question. No to Charlie Hunter being in it (anymore). |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2011 at 8:06pm
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Ok. So he WAS in the band, but not anymore. That reminds me, I should try and find the Charlie Hunter albums I have. It's been years since Ive listened to them. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2011 at 5:50am
Cheers, I'll be getting it. |
Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2011 at 8:13am
 very good, mostly ballads with a chamber jazz sound, 'ECM' quality ------------- I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ... Ken Burns |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2011 at 11:06am
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Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2011 at 4:01am
 not my cup of tea ------------- I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ... Ken Burns |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2011 at 6:10am
| I've surprised myself by really liking the collaboration of Wynton Marsalis and Eric Clapton, and having got the CD I've now gone out and bought the DVD, gaining even more pleasure seeing the genuine pleasure each musician gets for the others' playing. Indeed having read the review in the London Time several weeks ago, where the critic states this 20's New Orleans jazz fused with Chicago style blues but it works and he in particular cited the rearranged 'Layla' (included in the set at the request of one of Marsalis's band) - I felt compelled to hear this. In part I feel there is an irony here, in that Marsalis is playing a form of jazz fusion - not done since his couple of contributions to the 'Fuse' albums of the early 80's. But most importantly, I've long felt Clapton's laid back music had fallen over and gone to sleep, while Marsalis's utterances about fusion have been a turn off. However, here is a synergy , and some elements of musicians from slightly different backgrounds provoking each other into some superior playing without showing off. |