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Third Stream

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Topic: Third Stream
Posted By: seb2112
Subject: Third Stream
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2011 at 10:38am
Through another thread on avant garde music I've become interested in this style called "Third Stream" that mixes jazz and classical music. So far I really enjoy Milton Babbitt's ALL SET album. I'm looking for more Third Stream music, but I want composers who mixed avant garde jazz with modern classical music. Meaning, I don't enjoy jazz standards mixed with classical music, or even avant garde mixed with baroque. I'm really looking for more avant garde jazz influenced by the likes of Messiaen/Schonenberg/Bartok and the likes. Any suggestions?



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Posted By: seb2112
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2011 at 10:43am
I'm looking through the third stream section of this site, and what I see is mostly Jazz artists accompanied by orchestras, or jazz musicians playing mordern classical music, or orchestra arrangements of jazz music. Can't seem to find anything in the vein of that ALL SET album that actually play a mix of modern serialism with avant garde jazz, really need recommendations to navigate towards the portion of third stream artists I might enjoy!


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2011 at 4:32pm
^ I don't think what you describe could be called Third Stream. But some might know better. 


Posted By: seb2112
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2011 at 4:50pm
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

^ I don't think what you describe could be called Third Stream. But some might know better. 
Who cares what its called as long as it exists! Their must be more than that ALL SET album in that genre out there and I NEED to get my hands (well, ears...) on it!


Posted By: js
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2011 at 10:10pm
Milton Babbitt is a  pretty unique composer, and even among his own music, "All Set" is a fairly unique piece.
I don't know of too many other pieces like "All Set", and I don't know of many other composers who sound like Babbitt.


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2011 at 6:54am
Originally posted by seb2112 seb2112 wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

^ I don't think what you describe could be called Third Stream. But some might know better. 
Who cares what its called as long as it exists! Their must be more than that ALL SET album in that genre out there and I NEED to get my hands (well, ears...) on it!


Sure it counts, if you want avantgarde but ask for third stream you might have the avantgarde fans not answer your call. That's a simple forum life fact. Wink


Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 1:40am
Try Lucian Ban-Enesco Re-Imagined

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I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ...
Ken Burns


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 8:50am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_stream" rel="nofollow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_stream
You should find some kind of answers here
 
of course this remains Wiki, with its ups and flaws


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my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....




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