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Topic: Electronic Avant-Garde Jazz
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Subject: Electronic Avant-Garde Jazz
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2011 at 6:51am
I can't seem to find any. Are there any artists that you know of that I might enjoy?



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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2011 at 8:25am
It depends on what you mean by electronics.

There are several albums out there from the late 60s and early 70s in which avant-garde electronic composers collaborated with jazz musicians, a couple that I have are:
"Time Zones"  - Richard Teitelbaum with Anthony Braxton
"Sing Me a Song of Songmy" - Freddie Hubbard and Ilan Mimarlou (sp?)

Sun Ra is known to use a lot of avant-garde electronics on certain albums. A good one like that is "Atlantis". I have a review up if you want to check it out.

The Herbie Hancock Sextet used a lot of electronics in creating a semi avant-garde fusion on these albums:
"Mwandishi", "Sextant" and "Crossings". There are reviews up for most of those albums.

In the world of modern 'electronica', some of Squarepusher's drumnbass-jazz borders on avant-garde, it just depends on the album.


Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2011 at 9:17am
I'm a huge fan of Sun Ra's Atlantis album and Hancock's Mwandishi-era albums. I think what I'm looking for is a more avant-garde version of Jaga Jazzist-type electronic jazz.


Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2011 at 9:26am
Nice topic Alan!


Posted By: js
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2011 at 9:28am
Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:

I'm a huge fan of Sun Ra's Atlantis album and Hancock's Mwandishi-era albums. I think what I'm looking for is a more avant-garde version of Jaga Jazzist-type electronic jazz.

OK, there are at least a couple bands in our Nu Jazz genre that fit that. I'm just trying to remember who is which right now.


Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2011 at 9:31am
E.S.T. had some electronic sounds.


Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2011 at 9:34am
E.S.T. I've always found incredibly boring, but I'll try them again soon.


Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2011 at 9:38am
I believe that Esbjorn Svensson is one of the best artists in music. Generally I like some nu jazz artists. 


Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2011 at 9:42am
I really enjoy most of the music with Jørgen Munkeby.


Posted By: js
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2011 at 9:49am
Looking at the list of nu jazz, right off the bat I would recommend Robotobibok, they are like a modern version of the Sextet. They have a spin off group called Mikrokolektyw that is slightly less electronic but good.
Others that I think fit what you are looking for, but I'm not positive are:
Meat Beat Manifesto
Pink Freud
Sex Mob
Supersilent
David Torn
Bugge Wesseltoft  (some, but not all of his music)

Check out Robotobibok though, they are very original.


Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2011 at 9:52am
Thanks, I'm familiar with all but Robotobibok, so I'll definitely check them out. Big smile


Posted By: js
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2011 at 10:37am
Cool, if you like them, check out their spin-off group Mikrokolektyw.


Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2011 at 10:46am
Pink Freud is a good suggestion.


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2011 at 10:06pm
Try this:  forum_posts.asp?TID=230&KW=" rel="nofollow - Jojo Mayer and Nerve




Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2011 at 9:51am
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Try this:  forum_posts.asp?TID=230&KW=" rel="nofollow - Jojo Mayer and Nerve


Doesn't sound very jazzy to my ears, but it's still interesting and I like it. Thanks for the suggestion, Alex. Smile


Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2011 at 10:08am
Because is dnb jazz. I don't like it so much.


Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2011 at 11:40am
Otomo Yoshihide usually ruins good avant-jazz recordings or concerts with his turntables, does that count?

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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2011 at 12:09pm
Flying Lotus makes some amazing jazz and other exotic music with turntables. Not all jazz by any means, but excellent music.
DJ Spooky has also made some very nice avant-garde jazz tracks as well as Koop.


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2011 at 12:56pm
Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Try this:  forum_posts.asp?TID=230&KW=" rel="nofollow - Jojo Mayer and Nerve


Doesn't sound very jazzy to my ears, but it's still interesting and I like it. Thanks for the suggestion, Alex. Smile


The EP that Colin recommends there is jazzier than the samples he chose.


Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2011 at 1:04pm
Flying lotus is a good suggestion.


Posted By: triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2011 at 4:46pm
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Try this:  forum_posts.asp?TID=230&KW=" rel="nofollow - Jojo Mayer and Nerve


Doesn't sound very jazzy to my ears, but it's still interesting and I like it. Thanks for the suggestion, Alex. Smile


The EP that Colin recommends there is jazzier than the samples he chose.


Yes, all three of the EPs are more likely to be to your tastes than Prohibited Beats


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Posted By: triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2011 at 4:48pm
Oh, Bonobo maybe?


or is that more beat-orientated than you are looking for?


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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2011 at 4:15pm
The rest of the Nerve music still isn't quite jazzy in my opinion. That Bonobo track is cool, but it certainly doesn't sound avant-garde at all.


Posted By: triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2011 at 8:39pm
Oh right, all this talk of electronic made me forget that part of your request :P

Satan Alfa Beel Atem.


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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2011 at 6:10am
Interesting "electronic jazz" release - nu jazz godfather Norwegian pianist Bugge Wesseltoft and German deep house/electronic producer Henrik Schwarz duo.   

Not avant-garde though but great example of modern "electronic jazz"



Posted By: Freddie Freeloader
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2011 at 11:11am

supersilent



Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2011 at 1:06pm
Originally posted by triceratopsoil triceratopsoil wrote:

Oh right, all this talk of electronic made me forget that part of your request :P

Satan Alfa Beel Atem.

I already have that, and I don't really enjoy it too much.


Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2011 at 1:06pm
Originally posted by snobb snobb wrote:

Interesting "electronic jazz" release - nu jazz godfather Norwegian pianist Bugge Wesseltoft and German deep house/electronic producer Henrik Schwarz duo.   

Not avant-garde though but great example of modern "electronic jazz"


I've heard that one, and it's really good.


Posted By: Freddie Freeloader
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2011 at 1:25pm
Originally posted by Freddie Freeloader Freddie Freeloader wrote:

supersilent

but seriously Supersilent, you gotta have a pretty loose definition of jazz though


Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2011 at 2:25pm
Originally posted by Freddie Freeloader Freddie Freeloader wrote:

Originally posted by Freddie Freeloader Freddie Freeloader wrote:

supersilent

but seriously Supersilent, you gotta have a pretty loose definition of jazz though

I checked them out, and I actually do like it quite a bit. So far, this is the closest to what I was looking for, thanks!


Posted By: js
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2011 at 2:49pm
Originally posted by js js wrote:

Looking at the list of nu jazz, right off the bat I would recommend Robotobibok, they are like a modern version of the Sextet. They have a spin off group called Mikrokolektyw that is slightly less electronic but good.
Others that I think fit what you are looking for, but I'm not positive are:
Meat Beat Manifesto
Pink Freud
Sex Mob
Supersilent *
David Torn
Bugge Wesseltoft  (some, but not all of his music)

Check out Robotobibok though, they are very original.
I suggested them back on page one!!  Shocked


Posted By: Freddie Freeloader
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2011 at 3:24pm
Originally posted by js js wrote:

Originally posted by js js wrote:

Looking at the list of nu jazz, right off the bat I would recommend Robotobibok, they are like a modern version of the Sextet. They have a spin off group called Mikrokolektyw that is slightly less electronic but good.
Others that I think fit what you are looking for, but I'm not positive are:
Meat Beat Manifesto
Pink Freud
Sex Mob
Supersilent *
David Torn
Bugge Wesseltoft  (some, but not all of his music)

Check out Robotobibok though, they are very original.
I suggested them back on page one!!  Shocked
This is why I no longer suggest in lists. no one ever goes through them... It works better to either suggest one thing or post links/videos


Posted By: js
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2011 at 3:30pm
Damn lists, I hate them so much! Angry


Posted By: Freddie Freeloader
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2011 at 3:34pm
LOL
as far as lists go though its a pretty damn good one!


Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2011 at 3:38pm
Sometimes the lists make you feel tired (psychologically). But they help.


Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2011 at 4:38pm
Originally posted by js js wrote:

Originally posted by js js wrote:

Looking at the list of nu jazz, right off the bat I would recommend Robotobibok, they are like a modern version of the Sextet. They have a spin off group called Mikrokolektyw that is slightly less electronic but good.
Others that I think fit what you are looking for, but I'm not positive are:
Meat Beat Manifesto
Pink Freud
Sex Mob
Supersilent *
David Torn
Bugge Wesseltoft  (some, but not all of his music)

Check out Robotobibok though, they are very original.
I suggested them back on page one!!  Shocked

Oops, sorry! I somehow skipped over that one. I promise I did read the list, though. Anyway, great suggestion Smile


Posted By: triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2011 at 3:00pm
You've said you like boring ambient stuff too, try this



edit: Although apparently this is a cover version by The Empire Brass Quintet; pretty much only the drums sound different.


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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2011 at 10:57pm
Otomo Yoshihide did a reworking of Dolphy's Out To Lunch. The electronic elements aren't terribly present, but it's a great take on the work nonetheless.


Posted By: Polo
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2011 at 3:25pm
Originally posted by js js wrote:


Sex Mob

Excellent suggestion. The DJ makes them sound like old-school hip hop.


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Posted By: Moshkito
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2011 at 8:40pm
Hi,
 
Passport?



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