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Topic: Does anyone know jazz in the film The Kill-Off?
Posted By: Verney-Elliott
Subject: Does anyone know jazz in the film The Kill-Off?
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2021 at 7:40pm
Does anyone know the title of the jazz musicand the name of the musicians in the Hammond-organ jazz music at 23.52 - 24.54 and at 38.15 - 41.37 in the 1990 film titled The Kill-Off? 

Here is the link where you will hear the jazz Hammond organ music with sax, trumpet, drums:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRmGPLDkem4" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRmGPLDkem4




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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2021 at 8:56pm
The music is by Evan Lurie, Anders Gaardmano plays saxophone. They list Marc Rabot on guitar, I'm sure they mean Ribot. You can read the other musicians on the link below:

https://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/80235/the-kill-off#credits" rel="nofollow - https://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/80235/the-kill-off#credits


Posted By: Verney-Elliott
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2021 at 6:21am
That was the musicians on the film soundtrack made specially for the film; I was talking about the 1960s Hammond organ combo with sax and trumpet and drums in the striptease scene as I indicated in the link from YouTube which is not the composer and olayers which you mentioned; please could you kindly play those extracts and let me know who the musicians are and the name of the music; it is effeminately from the 1960s.


Posted By: Verney-Elliott
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2021 at 6:50am
Please go to the music played at: 23.52 - 24.54 and at 38.15 - 41.37 in the The Kill-Off.

You will hear the jazz Hammond organ music with sax, trumpet, drums here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRmGPLDkem4" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRmGPLDkem4


This has different musicians and is of an entirely different style; more slezzy and from the 1960s.


Posted By: js
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2021 at 7:07am
I listened to the soundtrack samples already when you posted them the first time.
I do not think that is an old jazz record, the music is stripper music played in a very exaggerated style. It definitely sounds like something that Evan Lurie and Marc Ribot would perform. Its in that 'lounge lizard' exotica style that they are known for. They are known for imitating older music like that sort of 60s stripper music, or surf music, or tiki lounge music etc. It does not sound like an old record. Jazz musicians don't put out albums of  corny stripper music like that. It was more than likely created for the movie and it is very much like the sort of thing Evan Lurie is known for. 


Posted By: js
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2021 at 7:16am
^ I moved this to the 'I Have a Question' section.


Posted By: Verney-Elliott
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2021 at 8:58am
Thank you for letting me know about your insights here; however, on repeated listening it does sound like an original jazz group as the style and sound are very much from the 1960s even if you think it is a pastiche/copy of that style; it sounds authentically older to me and also on the credits there is no mention of the Hammond Organ player and does not mention the Hammond Organ on the credits either; which sounds like the Ernie Freeman Combo as heard on 'Organs in Orbit' Ultra Lounge CD. I have been trying to contact all the players and composer of The Kil-Off but cannot get hold of them.


Posted By: js
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2021 at 10:12am
^ They don't list the specific instruments of the listed musicians, but later I will google some of them and see what comes up.
If this is an older record, than it is probably one of those kitsch 'strip for your husband' type records that was popular in the 60s, or some sort of exotic lounge record like the artists on the "Organs in Orbit" comp which I used to own.
I have listened to thousands of 60s jazz records over the years and jazz musicians don't put out campy records like this unless it is a soundtrack, or a strip record or some sort of exotic novelty. I still think it sounds exactly like the sort of thing Evan Lurie is known for and its why they hired him to do the music.


Posted By: Verney-Elliott
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2021 at 10:22am
Thank you for your response; I checked and looked at the end film credits subtitles and they did list the instruments but not the Hammond Organ which is why I suspect it was diffenet players and the film director of The Kill-Off  - Maggie Greenwald - told me some years ago she didn't remember who the jazz musicians of the striptease music were...she kust said it was taken from an old record...


Posted By: js
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2021 at 10:30am
If she said that then maybe it is an old record. I would look at old strip records and lounge exotica rather than jazz records though.

I'm well versed in 60s Hammond jazz records. That is what kind of music my own jazz group plays. i play a digital Hammond and I learned everything from records by Jimmy Smith, jack McDuff, Jimmy McGriff, Brian Auger, Groove Holmes etc. I can't imagine any of those guys doing an album like this.

By the way, at 38:54 they show an album cover that says something like Top Hits and a record on the turntable on the RCA label. It may just be a prop though and not the actual record.
Just listened again, its stripper music and a lot of times those records don't credit the musicians.



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