Weather Report vs Bitches Brew
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Topic: Weather Report vs Bitches Brew
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Subject: Weather Report vs Bitches Brew
Date Posted: 18 May 2012 at 10:57pm
Father vs Son?  Which album do you prefer between these two? BB deservedly has more of a landmark status of course - but I think that something about WR's narrows and tightens the focus of what BB began. And so I'm voting Weather Report, partially due to its relatively more chilled approach. ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
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Posted By: Cannonball With Hat
Date Posted: 19 May 2012 at 2:24am
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Weather Report, easy. BB has yet to appeal to me...and I can't imagine it will anytime soon. ------------- Hit it on Five. Saxophone Scatterbrain Blitzberg Stab them in the ears. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 19 May 2012 at 3:19am
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There wouldn' have been a WR without BB ------------- my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....  |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 19 May 2012 at 8:55am
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Neck and neck, excellent
Yeah? What is it about BB that doesn't sell it for you? Interested to hear what you think. Sometimes I wonder if Miles and Teo had stripped about a third of the band back for the album, what it would sound like.
Very true indeed. WR owe a lot to Miles on that one - even with the obvious connection between albums ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Cannonball With Hat wrote:Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 19 May 2012 at 1:30pm
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Bitches, although it still is sinking in. WR's debut is essential listening though, for all Brew fans.
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Posted By: triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 19 May 2012 at 2:38pm
Same, for whatever reason I haven't dug BB ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/TullDerGraff" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Cannonball With Hat
Date Posted: 19 May 2012 at 5:58pm
I find it boring and directionless. Stuff is happening yet nothing seems to be. No excitement to my ears. And it goes on and on and on. ------------- Hit it on Five. Saxophone Scatterbrain Blitzberg Stab them in the ears. |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 22 May 2012 at 6:24am
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^ That's partly why I like 'John McLaughlin' so much, it's a real concise moment in comparison to the rest of the album, which certainly meanders. But I also love how long the two pieces on first LP are, they almost wear you down with all that menace and reverb. And the rest of the album, that business is definitely hit and miss in some pieces. ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 22 May 2012 at 12:31pm
| ^the big two pieces are just massive, a must-listen for loud, high quality speakers. Exhausting experience. |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 22 May 2012 at 6:21pm
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Yes, exhasusting, but worth it. I most often hear it in headphones (not a bad pair) but when I really want to listen I use my proper stereo, got it rehoused with a more resonant quality of wood and it makes quite a difference - especially vs the old chipboard and thin veneer it used to be in. ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 24 May 2012 at 9:07pm
WR. For Alphonse Mouzon.
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 25 May 2012 at 3:55pm
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It took me a few years to appreciate Bitches Brew, meanwhile I was getting into so many other Miles Davis albums, both fusion and pre-fusion albums, including Big Fun, BB's sister album. Since a couple year ago at most, Ive loved Bitches Brew every time I throw it on. Weather Report is a great album too, but wouldn't exist without Bitches Brew. I do like that some compositions are on Miles' 70s albums, and yes, they're tighter, but man, the atmosphere on BB is so much.... cooler. Bitches Brew. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm |
Posted By: Cannonball With Hat
Date Posted: 25 May 2012 at 4:31pm
Yeah...it's probably in my top three just for the fact that it's short. But I still dont find it all that thrilling. ------------- Hit it on Five. Saxophone Scatterbrain Blitzberg Stab them in the ears. |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 28 May 2012 at 7:46am
And he's great on some of the Tyner and HH albums, too, huh?
Yes, a much 'cooler' atmosphere, I think it's one of the main selling points of the album for me, I like that description
To switch focus a little, how about In a Silent Way? ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 29 May 2012 at 5:41am
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Has anybody ever figured out what that "thing" was on WR's debut album's cover?? ------------- my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones.... |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 29 May 2012 at 5:54am
Not to mention Alphonse works with Larry Coryell and in Eleventh House
Not a fan of his Funky snakeboots solo album, though... Any other recs??
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love IASW as well, of course
------------- my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones.... |
Posted By: Cannonball With Hat
Date Posted: 31 May 2012 at 2:56am
In A Silent Way I like. Very good jazz album. Excellent atmosphere, and lovely keyboard 'overload'. I'm not a huge fan of IASW the track (the middle bit is nice though) but then I still dont care for it on Joe's album either. ------------- Hit it on Five. Saxophone Scatterbrain Blitzberg Stab them in the ears. |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2012 at 8:04am
Are they sails maybe? I love the artwork, it's powerful but subtle, has great movement to it ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2012 at 8:10am
Yes, it's always great to hear different versions, but I think I prefer it with Miles too. That album has a killer 'build and release theme' executed so well. My introduction to John's guitar I think, so I have additional fond memories of hearing the album for the first time ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2012 at 8:29am
That was my first thought (either that or Tibetan-type of flags) in the 90's, when I had the Columbia jzaa masterpiece edition... But if you save the artwork and enlarge it, it looks like mechanocal pieces ( pomp rotor or something of the kind)
yes, I like it, but probably even, more if I knew what it was  ------------- my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones.... |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2012 at 8:39am
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Yes! Mechanical indeed when I look closely, even a bit like scissors with fly-wings and white robes
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