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Topic: Miles Davis Appreciation Thread
Posted By: Matt
Subject: Miles Davis Appreciation Thread
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2012 at 2:44pm
We do not have one on Miles I noticed.
 
I think we are all fans due to the variety as much as the superb quality of many of his recordings. Even within the fusion alone there is a heap of variety within the studio albums. The Hard Bop, Modal, Post Bop and even those Gil Evans string jobs.LOL As you all know my least fave of his albums but still I do like "Sketches Of Spain" when in the mood. Anyway the one I have on now I think is a ripper. They all say transitional but wish he had done another similar.
 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B00000273J/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=5174&s=music" rel="nofollow">Filles De Killimanjaro
 
When you play his albums post your thoughts. After all he is the greatest...............after "Pops"Wink You have to say Louis is the greatest. Jazz would not have been the same without him.
 
Mile Davis is and always will be the greatest though for modern Jazz in my opinion. I bet like me that Miles Davis was the first Jazz albums you ever bought.


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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2012 at 3:25pm
Excellent idea, Matt.
KOB, Round Midnight & Birth... were my first three - given to me as presents so they were my first.
Most recently I played this classic
 


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Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2012 at 3:57pm
I bought not too long ago Nefertiti, to have it in physical form. It's killer; so modern, some of it sounds like any 90s/00's post bop group trying to be original. 

I've yet to delve into his pre-First Quintet stuff, but yes, Davis and Coltrane were my entry to jazz. Kind of Blue and In a Silent Way, despite being worlds apart, both fascinated me, both masterpieces.

And I agree, Filles is great stuff! For me that and Miles in the Sky develop the advanced ideas of Nefertiti and Sorcerer even more, adding new ideas.


Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2012 at 5:03pm

All those Quintet albums are great. Miles Smiles is my fave but ESP, Nerfertiti and Sorceror are close. I have Milestones going at the moment. I suppose my favourite Hard Bop album followed by Round Midnight. The actual first Miles album I bought was Bitches Brew.



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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2012 at 6:07pm
I have many Miles albums, from his early days as a bopper to his very last recorded album. I probably have more albums by him than any other artist.


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2012 at 2:39am
Right now, I rangef rom Birth (still in my outgoing pile of CD) all the way until Agharta...
 
Once I'll have gotten rid of Birth (I need shelf space), my earliets Miles will be KoB and SoS, both from 59.
 
I was never really into 80's Miles, the main exception being that OST of The Hot Spot, with Taj Mahal and more


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Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2012 at 1:19pm
Originally posted by js js wrote:

I have many Miles albums, from his early days as a bopper to his very last recorded album. I probably have more albums by him than any other artist.
I don't have his whole disco but close Wink . The last album that I bought was "Water Babies" about 10 years ago.
 
 
Giving this one a spin today. Cool  Not mad on George Benson's solo in the 2nd track but his guitar sounds great within the track.  You know what I mean. kinda confusingBig smile 
 
Wayne and Tony are magnificent.ClapClapClapClapClap Herbie, Ron and Miles aren't bad either Cool


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Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2012 at 1:28pm
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Right now, I rangef rom Birth (still in my outgoing pile of CD) all the way until Agharta...
 
Once I'll have gotten rid of Birth (I need shelf space), my earliets Miles will be KoB and SoS, both from 59.
 
I was never really into 80's Miles, the main exception being that OST of The Hot Spot, with Taj Mahal and more
Not mad on Birth, Sean. I am not that wrapped myself. I would rather hear his early stuff with Parker any day. I have mine in the garage with all the eighties albums. You need to get "Round Midnight" and the last four Prestige albums he did in one shot. "Walkin", "Steamin" etc.  "Bags Groove" is another early essential on Prestige. Sonny is in the band Cool

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Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2012 at 1:33pm
Does anybody have that massive Montreux Live set?  around 20 discs if I remember right. If so what do you think? I don't have it myself.  So much material.

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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2012 at 6:54pm
Originally posted by Matt Matt wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Right now, I rangef rom Birth (still in my outgoing pile of CD) all the way until Agharta...
 
Once I'll have gotten rid of Birth (I need shelf space), my earliets Miles will be KoB and SoS, both from 59.
 
I was never really into 80's Miles, the main exception being that OST of The Hot Spot, with Taj Mahal and more
Not mad on Birth, Sean. I am not that wrapped myself. I would rather hear his early stuff with Parker any day. I have mine in the garage with all the eighties albums. You need to get "Round Midnight" and the last four Prestige albums he did in one shot. "Walkin", "Steamin" etc.  "Bags Groove" is another early essential on Prestige. Sonny is in the band Cool
 
I do like the 'Relaxin'' Prestige one a lot, the others are great too of course, but Relaxin' gets my vote out of the four. Leaving the studio chatter in is fun


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Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2012 at 7:52pm
"Cookin'""Relaxin'""Workin'""Steamin'"

These albums are known as a marathon session. It is wonderful to have produced these albums in only two days.


Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2012 at 4:03pm
They were great and and not a dud in them . I love Walkin' but I am a sucker for a ballad sometimes with the album opening, "It Never Entered My Mind" but the other albums have some great stuff. All Great. These albums have all those early standards that he played. He did it to finish up his contract with Prestige so he could start with Columbia. Amazing the quality of the albums. There would not have been too many takes.  Freshness I love.I'd rather have the odd small mistake. Anyway gives it that little bit of Live touch I suppose. Something about it. It is hard to explain exactly why but there is a difference.  I know one thing though when an album is over produced it can wreck it.
 
Goin' for Steamin'. It has "Salt Peanuts" and my fave Monk tune "Well You Needn't. you know de de de di di di.  Embarrassed couldn't help myself. Love ya Monk
 


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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2012 at 9:19pm
One of my fav pieces from those albums - If I Were a Bell. Found a live one from the famous 61 concerts




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Posted By: Cannonball With Hat
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2012 at 11:28pm
He's aight.

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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 12:42am
Have we mentioned 'Sketches' here? It's probably in my top three or four Miles albums, and it's hard to narrow so many great ones down to that number, but it's up there for me.

I know it's not always met with universal love, but it has a quality.



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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 12:29pm
The Miles Davis bug bit me recently, Ive been listening to a couple Miles albums here and there, and currently going way back to Birth of the Cool. Ive been particularly craving more of his non-fusion albums, and yesterday decided to pick up this album, the only Second Great Quintet album I didn't have. I expected no less than absolute quality, and for $6 bucks, I couldn't pass it up.



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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 12:33pm
^ excellent album, one of his best, goes good with "Nefertitti", both are two of his best.


Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 9:50pm
I concur, and $6 that's great stuff all by itself

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 3:27am
Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Have we mentioned 'Sketches' here? It's probably in my top three or four Miles albums, and it's hard to narrow so many great ones down to that number, but it's up there for me.

I know it's not always met with universal love, but it has a quality.

 
As I said in another thread SoS (with P&B and Miles Ahead) is IMHO more of a Gil Evans album than a Miles album
 
Apparently there is another (fourth) collab called Quiet Nights, that I didn't know about), but apparently it's not as good as the other three
 
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Posted By: Artie25
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 7:54pm
ClapMy favorite Miles goes way back.The Walking Album with J.J<Johnson.Milt Jackson.I especially liked the tenor solo on that album.I admired all his changes through the years.


Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 8:00pm
Miles' music has been in my thoughts the last couple of days. Every time that happens, I wind up going into a Miles Davis craze. But it always takes a few days for me to start it up. I'm weird with the man's music.

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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 8:02pm
Originally posted by Artie25 Artie25 wrote:

ClapMy favorite Miles goes way back.The Walking Album with J.J<Johnson.Milt Jackson.I especially liked the tenor solo on that album.I admired all his changes through the years.


I'll have to revisit those 50s Miles albums. I've been slowly making my way backwards from the 70s to the 60s, etc.


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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2012 at 8:15pm
Originally posted by Artie25 Artie25 wrote:

ClapMy favorite Miles goes way back.The Walking Album with J.J<Johnson.Milt Jackson.I especially liked the tenor solo on that album.I admired all his changes through the years.

Sounds nice, I've been listening to J J's work with Miles on "Birth of the Cool".


Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2012 at 9:36pm
I was at a party the other night, I stayed very late. Around 3:30am, someone put on Relaxin' and it was perfect music. 

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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2012 at 9:27pm
I put Relaxin' on again tonight. I think it's my favorite 50s Miles album. I mean, Kind of Blue and Miles Ahead are classics, and pretty much untouchable, but Relaxin' is just perfect music every time it goes on. 

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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2012 at 12:38am
I love that one too, definitely a wonderful album - If I Were a Bell is one of my all time fav pieces from Miles


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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 12:28pm
Get Up With It always leaves me in awe.

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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 12:36pm
Miles pre-dated many future trends in music with that one.


Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 1:43pm
He Loved Him Madly and Rated X are some progressive pieces of music. 

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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 2:02pm
I like those two, I was going to list some more favorites, but really, almost the entire album is my favorite. I can remember listening to this way back and thinking this was like no other music I heard before, including all the avant-garde jazz up to that point.


Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 2:06pm
Big Fun is also up there, with it's Indian tinges and deep improvs, but also funky as hell at times.

I've always thought those 2 albums were better than the more popular Bitches Brew, which is of course another masterpiece anyway.


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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 2:15pm
I agree that they are better, "Brew" is a very talented jam session, but there isn't much vision or composition. Meanwhile, tunes like "Great Expectations" on "Big Fun" were a whole new thing that explored a different side to music.


Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 3:04pm
Crazy how all the studio albums from In A Silent Way through Get Up With It came from
similar sessions from '69 to '72 with overlapping line-ups, yet each album has their own identity.


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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2013 at 12:23pm
Miles Ahead has really grown on me since I bought it a month or so ago. Real beautiful big band music. Once again, best listened to at night, as with most Miles music. I definitely put it up there with Kind of Blue and Birth Of The Cool, as it has that mystical feeling that the other 2 albums have.

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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2013 at 12:54pm
I have been listening to "Circle in the Round", lots of nice things from various eras.


Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 02 May 2013 at 6:15pm
Nothing like throwing on Relaxin' on a late, warm Spring afternoon.

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Posted By: cuteerian
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2013 at 3:29am
He's great Big smile


Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2013 at 12:05pm
So I've been going through all my Miles albums lately, and I've gotten a new appreciation for the mid-70s albums Get Up With It, Dark Magus, Agharta, and Pangaea. I've been craving more, though. Are there any more albums from this era of Miles' electric era??


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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2013 at 12:11pm
Parts of "Big Fun" are from that era. If you like the Pete Cosey psychedelic guitar workouts, the complete "On the Corner" box set has some killer psychedelic guitar jams that don't show up elsewhere.
There is also "Guinevere", a psychedelic masterpiece from "Circle in the Round".


Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2013 at 12:15pm
Yea, I don't have any of the box-sets, so i guess that's a good avenue to try. On The Corner box set has better ratings than the album proper, hah. The Cellar Door Sessions seem good too, though that's more on the Live-Evil side of things I think.

But are there any more live stuff from that mid-70s era??


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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2013 at 12:59pm
I don't know of any other mid 70s live albums, but I bet there are some good bootlegs, I just don't own any of them.


Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2013 at 1:33pm
Oh OK. Oh well. I'm hoping that since they released "Bitches Brew Live", which I haven't checked out yet, as well as "It's About That Time" a while back, they'll do a posthumous album for the mid-70s band with Pete Cosey.


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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2013 at 1:43pm
I haven't hard of anything else yet, but let me know if something comes up.
There is also the studio album "Miles from India" that has some of Pete Cosey's guitar work, its a fairly recent album.



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