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Poll Question: Do you feel that it is interesting?
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    Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 1:03am

I tried to look for a progressive tune from the section of pop jazz as much as possible.

The tune is not completely progressive. However, I thought that an arrangement and a complex melody were able to enjoy the fan of prog rock.

I want to hear the opinion if it feels it if they are interesting.

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Outside the track above, I'm not familiar with Bob James...
 
I always thought that Spyro's latin fusion terribly booooooring and even mildly irritating if pushed slightly above background music volume
 
 
sooooooo, it's all left to Chicago's early stuff, really888 But don't look elsewhere beyond the 8th album, though .... Coz it sucks!!!...
 
 
 
 
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I would rather suggest Romantic Warrior by RtF or something by Mahavishnu to a Prog Rock fan, or maybe Spectrum by Cobham.

But out of those samples, Chicago.
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Interesting question.  I voted for Chicago because of their early material but I would encourage the curious prog rocker out there to investigate early Gino Vannell, "Powerful People" and "Storm at Sunup" in particular, because despite his flamboyant posturing his band did a great job of blending jazz with prog, especially during their extended instrumental segments.
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Steely Dan too?
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I actually voted for Bob because of the arrangement, though 'Chicago' overall might be better for the prog fan
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It is very significant for me to hear everyone's opinion. Thank you.

Anyway, I often listened and was researching pop jazz. Steely Dan that Alex referred might be a good example. For Aja especially

Or, I did not put it on the list though I thought about "Seven Days" of Sting. I expected the vote to gather in Chicago a little of course.

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Thank you for recommending Gino Vannelli, Rollie

I will check it at once. I felt it very wonderful.

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Bob James has his moments, but at least from what I heard no 'progressive' to be found, thus little interest for the prog fan imo. Don't know this SG, so can't really comment. I'm left to say Chicago. Though they are certainly the most rock (and less pop, at least their early stuff, which is what I'm assuming is being talked about here) so for a prog-rock fan that may be a plus.
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Chicago. Their first album is Genius
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^Welcome to the site. Yes. I think that the music character of Chicago is almost consolidated in an initial album.

I will enumerate 5, (8), and 11 as a personal favorite.

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Originally posted by criticdrummer94 criticdrummer94 wrote:

Chicago. Their first album is Genius
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have you heard Chicago 7??
 
it's a double album (like their first three), but you'd have a hard time recognizing the first disc as Chicago.... They're pure JR/F on this one, some where betwenn Santana and early Weather Report (and I love it)... The second disc is normal mid-peroid Chicago like 5 or 8


Edited by Sean Trane - 26 Aug 2011 at 3:38am
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I love Bob James, and think that's a very good track and gets my vote.  My favourite album of his One, which I think a great progressive JRF album. The Chicago one is my least liked -- never really liked the band in any incarnation.








Edited by Logan - 29 Oct 2011 at 12:08pm
"Anyone can make the simple complicated. Creativity is making the complicated simple" (Charles Mingus).
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Thanks, just fixed the tag on that one, I knew there were some really good early Bob James records out there, I just can't remember which ones. He's a great keyboardist, but in the late 70s his name became synonymous with the most commercial jazz.

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He played different types of jazz.  From avant-garde jazz in the 60s with two albums, to progressive jazz-rock/funk, to smooth jazz/ pop....Check out his '63 and '65 albums if you ever get the chance -- very good.


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"Anyone can make the simple complicated. Creativity is making the complicated simple" (Charles Mingus).
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Those top two cuts are a treasure trove of popular hip-hop samples, couldn't believe how many familiar riffs and melodies there are.
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I can say the same for a little of the jazz, funk, beat, groove, exotica music I listen to.  I've been amazed at finding out how much of what I do listen to has been sampled by hip-hoppers.
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^ yes, hip-hop artists sample from anything, there is no limit from what Ive heard. Rock, bluegrass. But funk and soul take the cake.

Anyway, pop jazz for the prog rock fan.... Have you heard Weather Report - "Heavy Weather"?
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Chicago here.  

 
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

He played different types of jazz.  From avant-garde jazz in the 60s with two albums, to progressive jazz-rock/funk, to smooth jazz/ pop....Check out his '63 and '65 albums if you ever get the chance -- very good.
 
certainly will, thanks
 
 
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Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

^ yes, hip-hop artists sample from anything, there is no limit from what Ive heard. Rock, bluegrass. But funk and soul take the cake.

Anyway, pop jazz for the prog rock fan.... Have you heard Weather Report - "Heavy Weather"?


Yep, Heavy Weather should appeal to many of those into jazz  pop; whereas, I would say that  I Sing the Body Electric and the debut would be more likely to appeal to more adventurous people who enjoy progressive music.

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

He played different types of jazz.  From avant-garde jazz in the 60s with two albums, to progressive jazz-rock/funk, to smooth jazz/ pop....Check out his '63 and '65 albums if you ever get the chance -- very good.
 
certainly will, thanks
 
 
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