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It figures that the Europeans know whats really going on here.
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More news:
https://thinkprogress.org/trump-putin-extra-22babc3a8e19#.sinhu3tci


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This is the first time I can remember the Russians supporting a Republican.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-media-backs-trump-questions-us-democracy-091558036.html


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Just for the record, i have been to Russia and studied the language for several years in college. The former Soviet Union did phenomenal research into occult scientific knowledge as well as creating a more Utopian society that was, of course, flawed but yielded some good results. The US is currently in a crisis of captialism eating itself and Russia's position on the world stage as a leader of the BRIC nations has it at odds with the US's hegemonic stanglehold on pegging other nation's currency to the US dollar. Russia has wrankled Uncle Sam beyond belief and even though Trump is a moron in many ways, i do think he is right about shmoozing with Russia in many ways. They are not the bogey man the media portrays them to be. In fact they were our ally until after WW2 when we decided that we needed a super power to make the scapegoat of all our problems. I'm not saying Russia has done no wrong, oh heaven's no, they have done many, many, many wrongs in this world, but so have we
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I was born in European country, occupied by Russia, and spent first 25 yrs of my life in what was known as Soviet Union.  And I lived the other two and half decades of my life all around Europe (from UK to Balkans, from Holland to Baltics) and Central Asia - territories which have regular relations with Russia. You can find no nation there who like Russia - because of their aggressive 19 century-like imperialistic behavior first of all.

During last decade Putin's Russia started two wars in modern Europe - occupied part of Georgia and Crimea peninsula / Donbass in Ukraine. No country in modern Europe behaves like that during last 60 yrs. I don't care much about their internal "soft dictatorship" - I perfectly know this nation culture/mentality, they are far not Europeans and as almost any Asian nation, they prefer authoritarian regime against freedom (and each citizen's responsibility).  But Putin's regime aggressive plans to return world to Molotov-Ribbentrop's pact era is a biggest danger for peace and future in all Europe and partially Central Asia/Near East.

What is written in previous post ^^ is direct citation from  Putin regime-paid Russian propaganda for naive Westerners (using RT (former Russia Today), "Sputnik",etc channels) - comparing with former Communist Russia Putin's regime learned a lot from Gebbels art of propaganda, and I know it works - especially in parts of the world which are far from Russia and part of people believe in all that lies.

I still live 160 miles from Russian border (originally Eastern Prussia, most developed part of pre-WWII Germany which Russians occupied right after the war, departed ALL local population and built most militarized territory in Europe), my home town is full of Russian spies and 24h per day we  can hear/see their TV propaganda. Not sure if in States you see the same. In Europe they advertise themselves as last crusaders fighting against gays wedding, Asian immigrants invasion to Europe (they still believe that world count them being part of Europe) and as best example of "strong hand controlled democracy" vs European silly democracy and American Imperialism.

 To be honest, even here in Europe their propaganda works for part of population - usually lower educated, lesser income getting marginal groups and small part of leftist intellectuals (absolute bigger part of them never been in Russia even as tourists, I don't speak about familiarity with culture,language,mentality and regime's methods)

I believe it's extremely difficult for outsiders to have a right opinion about other nation/country/regime especially if it's very different country from your own. We here in Europe were shocked when "red Obama" has been elected in such anti-Communist country as States and during two cadences we evidenced absolute disaster of US foreign affairs everywhere -from Europe to Middle East to Near East and Far East. But I believe for Americans he was good enough and my above opinion on Obama's America sounds more than funny for many Americans.

Now we are even more shocked about possible Obama's alternative - Mr.Trump looks like bad joke here, but I believe for many Americans my words looks like crazy foreigner's stupidity. America's Putin fans words that "Russia is far not so bad, probably even good" for everyone even slightly more familiar with subject sounds at least as bad joke.


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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Just for the record, i have been to Russia and studied the language for several years in college. The former Soviet Union did phenomenal research into occult scientific knowledge as well as creating a more Utopian society that was, of course, flawed but yielded some good results. The US is currently in a crisis of captialism eating itself and Russia's position on the world stage as a leader of the BRIC nations has it at odds with the US's hegemonic stanglehold on pegging other nation's currency to the US dollar. Russia has wrankled Uncle Sam beyond belief and even though Trump is a moron in many ways, i do think he is right about shmoozing with Russia in many ways. They are not the bogey man the media portrays them to be. In fact they were our ally until after WW2 when we decided that we needed a super power to make the scapegoat of all our problems. I'm not saying Russia has done no wrong, oh heaven's no, they have done many, many, many wrongs in this world, but so have we

What ended our happy relationship after WWII was that Russia decided to make several countries in Eastern Europe their own.
Similarly, in today's world, Putin has displayed a desire to keep expanding Russia's boundries. Just ask anyone form Eastern Europe what they think of Putin.
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Yesterday(!) Police of small Balkan country of Montenegro announced some first results of investigation of incident which happened there a few weeks ago. During country's Parliament election, a team of terrorist has been arrested (the very same election day). Montenegro is one of the last European non-NATO country, but it already asked for membership (which most probably will be confirmed next year).

Since it was almost obvious that current Socialist(!) President will be re-elected (and he was the one who supports NATO membership as main warranty for their independence), Russians in the only Russia-still-friendly country in Europe -Serbia formed and trained gorillas team (of Russian,Serbian and Montenegrin citizens) and sent them at the day of election to attack the Parliament and to kill current (and possible future) President since they saw it's the only way to change the government and to avoid Montenegrin participation in pro-American (read - anti-Russian) treaty. Montenegrin special services arrested them right before attack, same President has been elected and yesterday country's police announced first official info about what was a plan and who's responsible for it.

It's not a Hollywood movie, it happens in TODAY's Europe. Do you really think Putin is true Americans friend?
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

...Russia's position on the world stage as a leader of the BRIC nations...



Wrong - they are not


Of all BRIC countries, or BRICS if you want to use more current version, Chine is an upcoming world economics No1, India goes slow but according to more optimistic scenario has huge perspective. Brazil with their corrupted Socialist government has a huge troubles (and economical as well), Russia's economics decreases few years in a row. They are not a leader (and never been), they are looser.

Russia's economics size is same of Italy (or Mexico if you want), and main source of their income is sales of oil and gas, as Saudi Arabia or Kuwait does. Their convention military forces would loose against single Britain,or Germany. The only argument they have they are second world largest nuclear country after US, and they officially changed their Military Doctrine - from now they have a right to use their Nukes first. Against everyone (even non-nuclear country) if they will see that their interest is in danger.

Yes, I know States are far from them, much more far than Warsaw or Berlin, but - do you really think they are friends of Americans?


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^ First of all all those countries were divided by ruling elites. It was decided in Germany after the war on which ones to divide up into two sides. This was done by financial elites not the Soviet Union themselves. Like everything regarding history and poltics, this is a subject that requires volumes of history to decipher in order to see a much larger picture and i've spent about 20 years studying these things on a deeper level than many out there. The relationships of geopoltics is more governed by financial elites than elected nation states these days but i do see Putin as a leading force in creating a new world currency that dethrones the US dollar. Also if you understand all the scientific research that is done in Russia you would realize that they have been leaders in such arenas that have basically been forbidden in the west. It's too much information to convince you of anything since you experience things on a different more personal level but Russia is just doing what empires do and the US has been more of a threat to world peace. And also Russia gets blamed for many things that it has nothing to do with since it's a convenient scapegoat for the Western media. I meet Russians here all the time because we have a large community and they are just like everyone else. It's not the people who are bad but rather the out of touch elites who are bent on world domination
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This is not about the Russian people, its about their government. I visited East Germany while they were ruled by Russia, I can not describe the despair and misery, the most unhappy place i have ever visited.
I also have many friends, mostly Polish, who lived under Russian domination, their stories contain no mention of a worker's utopia.
Putin is no different, he seeks domination of other countries, whatever he can get his hands on.

I'm well aware of the awful things the US does in the world, but thats no excuse for what the Russian government does, or tries to do.
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ First of all all those countries were divided by ruling elites. It was decided in Germany after the war on which ones to divide up into two sides. This was done by financial elites not the Soviet Union themselves. Like everything regarding history and poltics, this is a subject that requires volumes of history to decipher in order to see a much larger picture and i've spent about 20 years studying these things on a deeper level than many out there. The relationships of geopoltics is more governed by financial elites than elected nation states these days but i do see Putin as a leading force in creating a new world currency that dethrones the US dollar. Also if you understand all the scientific research that is done in Russia you would realize that they have been leaders in such arenas that have basically been forbidden in the west. It's too much information to convince you of anything since you experience things on a different more personal level but Russia is just doing what empires do and the US has been more of a threat to world peace. And also Russia gets blamed for many things that it has nothing to do with since it's a convenient scapegoat for the Western media. I meet Russians here all the time because we have a large community and they are just like everyone else. It's not the people who are bad but rather the out of touch elites who are bent on world domination


I am a bit surprised  to hear such point of view from American - leftists (and ultra-right radicals - both often are supported financially from Kremlin) around Europe speak like that for decade or more.  For me, it only shows how successful Putin's propaganda is nowadays.

Anyway, we are living in a new world we still don't know what it is. Very soon you will have your new President and possibly post-industrial world will became even more strange than before. 

BTW, your above mentioned "capitalism eating itself today in US" is a joke I believe. There are no capitalism in Western world for some decades already, we are living in post-industrial world.
Capitalism can be found in some third world countries (in different forms) - including Putin's Russia (state capitalism). Western world passed this stage with IT-revolution.



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Originally posted by snobb snobb wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ First of all all those countries were divided by ruling elites. It was decided in Germany after the war on which ones to divide up into two sides. This was done by financial elites not the Soviet Union themselves. Like everything regarding history and poltics, this is a subject that requires volumes of history to decipher in order to see a much larger picture and i've spent about 20 years studying these things on a deeper level than many out there. The relationships of geopoltics is more governed by financial elites than elected nation states these days but i do see Putin as a leading force in creating a new world currency that dethrones the US dollar. Also if you understand all the scientific research that is done in Russia you would realize that they have been leaders in such arenas that have basically been forbidden in the west. It's too much information to convince you of anything since you experience things on a different more personal level but Russia is just doing what empires do and the US has been more of a threat to world peace. And also Russia gets blamed for many things that it has nothing to do with since it's a convenient scapegoat for the Western media. I meet Russians here all the time because we have a large community and they are just like everyone else. It's not the people who are bad but rather the out of touch elites who are bent on world domination


I am a bit surprised  to hear such point of view from American - leftists (and ultra-right radicals - both often are supported financially from Kremlin) around Europe speak like that for decade or more.  For me, it only shows how successful Putin's propaganda is nowadays. 

I guess i delve into the nitty gritty more than most Americans. I really only listen to the leading experts who have studying these things for decades. My views have nothing to to with Putin. More comments are more about the entire history of the Russian culture. It is utterly fascinating in its development and i have visited most Eastern European countries with most time spent in Poland and i totally understand exactly why you folks despise Russia. I'm simply saying there are good things that are coming along with the bad.


Anyway, we are living in a new world we still don't know what it is. Very soon you will have your new President and possibly post-industrial world will became even more strange than before.  

It's true we are entering uncharted territories but i have a clearer picture than most i guess because i've listened to hundreds of hours of whistleblower testimony about the secret power structures that really govern our world. It has a lot to do with the Federal Reserve here in the US that was given to private hands a hundred years ago. Amongst the biggest revelations that will be revealed in a short time is the secret space programs that have developed all kinds of technology that have been kept from the public in general. Other claims are that the Nazis were the first to enter space all the way back in the 30s and the US and USSR have had bases on the moon and other planets. I've heard enough testimony from old timers who worked in these programs to be convinced it's real. Free energy and all the world's problems have been solved long ago and it's only a small elite who keeps these things from being unleashed onto the public. When viewed in this context it becomes more obvious that the politics that we observe on a public level are really no more the pawns being placed on a chessboard and moved accordingly by the invisible power structures


BTW, your above mentioned "capitalism eating itself today in US" is a joke I believe. There are no capitalism in Western world for some decades already, we are living in post-industrial world. 
Capitalism can be found in some third world countries (in different forms) - including Putin's Russia (state capitalism). Western world passed this stage with IT-revolution.

I disagree. Capitalism is alive and well and it is eating itself because it thrives on consuming the Earth's resources, polluting with impugnity and then moving on. Western countires may have become post-industrial but the industry simply moved to China, south Asia, Africa and Latin America. Keep in mind there's no such thing as "pure" capitalism. It is simply one system employed that mixes and meld with various others and only one ingredient in a larger economic pie that is used and manipulated accordingly for the benefit of a very small elite of billionaires who own 98% of the world's wealth


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so -we woke up in the new world Ouch

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I can't describe my disappointment, this is a very sad day for the US and the world.

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There's a lot that goes on behind the scene. Clinton and the establishment was hell bent for leather on creating a war with Russia. Although i didn't vote for him and don't personally like him, at least he will most likely not be creating artificial skirmishes where none exist. Part of the insider testimony i've studied is that the president is only like 35th in line in an invisible power structure. If he gets too out of control and threatens the status quo they will simply play a JFK on him. I suggest just don't watch TV for the next four years!!!
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

There's a lot that goes on behind the scene. Clinton and the establishment was hell bent for leather on creating a war with Russia. Although i didn't vote for him and don't personally like him, at least he will most likely not be creating artificial skirmishes where none exist. Part of the insider testimony i've studied is that the president is only like 35th in line in an invisible power structure. If he gets too out of control and threatens the status quo they will simply play a JFK on him. I suggest just don't watch TV for the next four years!!!

Russia's actions in the Ukraine and Syria are not "artificial skirmishes', people have died, and more will, others will loose their liberty, there is nothing artificial about that. 
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That's true but it's a drop in the bucket compared to what the US does in world occupation and theft of other nation's resources. I'm not defending Russia's aggressive behavior in that region by any means but the Syria thing is riddled with inconsistencies in reporting and i have not been convinced either way about what is happening there. And when it's all said and done, it's not our business as Americans to be there. We have a crumbling country and spend all our resources keeping corporations rich.

I respect Putin for a reasons. He has allowed Edward Snowden asylum. Snowden has been heroic in exposing how invasive and insidious our government really is. Also he has been rejecting genetically modified crops and the whole notion of corporations being able to patent life forms. 

In short, Russia has not done anything the US hasn't done a million times over. It's a mixed bag for sure but i'm happy to see another power fighting back against the world domination that our leaders seem to be salivating over.

The same could be said about China, India, Brazil. There are both positive and negative aspects of their nations all playing out simultaneously.

Unfortuantely we live in a univesre where negative and postive energy are in constant flux. This plays out in the human world as dictated by physics. It has always been this way and always will unless we literally pop into a different dimension or something where the rules are different
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