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Dennis Hopper at a party at Ricky Nelson's house ... Shocked
I don't think anyone was expecting that. LOL

Did people improvise music in the background, while you or others read your poetry?
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I'm thinking this Melody McCord must be the blond 'sister' you met. Click the link to see and read about Melody.
I get the impression Joyce and her are related, but maybe not actually sisters, ... possibly cousins ?


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I never believed she was Sammy's real sister, but this girl is a dead-ringer for her!  I had forgotten her name.
No, Dennis Hopper was not at Ricky's house; sorry bout that.  I met Dennis when his then-girlfriend fixed me up on a blind date w/some comedian (can't remember name).  We had a wonderful time, & Dennis was so sweet.  Of course I was very underaged then, & this was before his wild & wooley days.  We double dated several times, but neither of us could stand the Hollywood scene or parties. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote js Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Dec 2015 at 2:00am
Dennis always came across as unpretentious.
You may have already seen this bio of Dana Barron in Wikipedia, it mentions Joyce a bit, plus her Dad also, here is an excerpt:

Barron was born in New York CityNew York. Her mother, Joyce McCord, is a stage actress.[1] Her father, Robert Weeks Barron, was a director of commercials and a Congregationalist church pastor; Robert founded The Weist-Barron School of Television, the first commercial and soap opera acting for television school in the world.[1][2][3] Barron has a sister named Allison. She is a fifth generation entertainer. Her grandfather was an opera singer, and her mother moved from Alabama to become an actress.[2]"



I thought I had seen a fuller bio for Joyce somewhere, but maybe not. There are of course, a lot more pictures of Dana out there, and she looks very much like Sammy in a couple of them.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote patti.mccrory Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Dec 2015 at 3:56pm
I also googled Dana's father.  Seems like he was quite a bit older than Joyce (Sammy).  Dana is a beautiful gal.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote js Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Dec 2015 at 10:29pm
It has been very interesting having your input on all this, this has confirmed a lot of the things I thought from the beginning. If I ever come across any contact info for Joyce, I would send that to you by private email, but so far, I haven't seen that.
Also, if your granddaughter, or daughter, have come across any old photos, we would love to post those too.

I took one more look for your old friend in the photo, "Shaunna Lea". I'm going to guess that maybe that wasn't her full name. Possibly Shaunna was her first name, and maybe Lea was her middle name, but I'm guessing she had a last name too.
With that in mind, I found a Shaunna Lea Boyce who got married in Southern California in the early 60s, this woman died at a fairly young age (similar age for a lot of cigarette smokers), I have no idea if that is the woman in the Miss Beatnik photo, but I didn't see many more people to look at.


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We lived on Kirkwood Drive in Laurel Canyon (off Sunset Blvd. in Hollywood).  Our single land lord lived nx door, and was named Rick Morrison.  He knew everyone & everything in Hollywood.  I visited him several times through the years, but don't know if he's still living.  He definitely knew the "girls" and was a cool guy.  If you do run across him, he knew me by Patti Butcher. (if his memory is still there). LOL

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote js Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Dec 2015 at 9:48am
I'll have to look around for him some time, in the meantime...
You mentioned working for the LA Dodgers, what was that about? Do you recall what years that was?
I know a lot of early 60s baseball, I can still name a lot of the players, especially the Dodgers, Giants and Reds.
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that's a whole other story...I believe it was around 1960.  The Dodgers moved from Brooklyn to L. A. where they played in the old Ram's Football stadium...& won the World Series that first year.  I worked for them as a  "Floating" Secty. the year after that.  the big stars then were Sandy Koufax & Don Drysdale.   I started off in the Executive office working for the owner, Walter O'Malley.  I was then transferred to the Scouting Dept. (Mr. Campasi), & then to the Tickey & Publications office where I worked for Harold Parrott.  Mr. Parrott was my dearest friend thru many yrs after I left.  I believe he ended up working with the Seattle Pilots.  He later wrote a book which was made into a movie.  He was a fabulous Journalist in New York & L. A.  One of my bosses left the Dodgers & formed the San Diego Padres.  Another boss (Lefty Phillips) played for the Angels before either of us were born.  Most of the players came to L. A. with the Brooklyn Dodgers.  There was Duke Snyder, Gil Hodges, etc.  Once when I lived in Vegas, Maury Wills & a few other players came to see me at Minsky's Follies where I was dancing.  They were doing a little show at one of the Casinos.  ALL OF THIS WAS BACK WHEN BASEBALL RULED. 
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Those are all familiar names, the two I would add to that would be Tommy and Willie Davis, but they may have come on a year later.
Thats quite an honor to have Maury Wills come out and see you, what kind of shows were you doing in Vegas?


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Willie Davis was there when I worked for the Dodgers, and I believe he was one that was appearing in a show in Vegas.  I believe the other 3 were Frank Howard, Maury Wills, & Don Drysdale.  I think this is correct.  I never went to see it.  I was a dancer in Minsky's Follies at the Frontier in Vegas.  They came in one night to gamble and we ran into each other.  We were not allowed to date the players when I worked for the Dodgers, but it was probably better that way, because we all became good friends ONLY.
There was a Tommy Davis who was born here in Shreveport, LA who played for the famous LSU Chinese Bandits back in 1957-58 & won the National championship.   He even went to my old high school.  I believe Tommy and Willie both have passed away.
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Looks like Willie Davis passed away about five years ago, but I'm not sure about Tommy.

You mentioned earlier about protests concerning Carrell Chessmann, it seems his story is mostly forgotten now, maybe you could shed some light on what that was all about.
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From what I can remember, Steve Allen & his wife Jayne Meadows, & crew all came down to Big Daddy's Place in Venice Beach where I was staying at the time.....recruiting people to march a Protest march against the Death Penalty concerning Carrell Chessman, and receive a small salary.  It was just another crazy way to make a living and have a blast.  Our art wasn't selling at all, etc.  My girlfriend and I were just breaking even at the Coffee House.  When my granddaughter visited there, she said it was still there, & doing great with all the tourist and all.  Steve Allen loved my art.  He was a pretty cool guy.
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Do you still have any of your art work, or is any still on display anywhere?
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no.  I've move at least 100 times since then.  The one Steve Allen loved was a terra cotta charcoal of Big Daddy.  Last I heard it was hanging in the new place.  It took me about 30 minutes to complete.  We all cracked up when Steve Allen looked at all the art & said, "Now this is what I call real art."

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Wow, great thread :)
Thanks JS & Patti for organising/sharing!

Can I ask, who was everyone reading / not reading at the time?
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Ginsberg, Sylvia Plath (my favorite), Kerouac, David Meltzer, etc., and of course psychology.  That's was everyone's major back then.  We didn't gave a hoot about politics...we were totally anti-society.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote js Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jan 2016 at 8:03pm
It seems to me that the beats were a more individualistic and eclectic group, whereas the hippies set out to be non-conformists, among themselves, they became very conformist with their own set of standards and rules to follow. I get the feeling the beats were never as homogeneous as the hippies eventually became...
although I'm hardly an expert.

Anyway, of the writers you mention, did you ever encounter any of them in person?


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Originally posted by patti.mccrory patti.mccrory wrote:

Ginsberg, Sylvia Plath (my favorite), Kerouac, David Meltzer, etc., and of course psychology.  That's was everyone's major back then.  We didn't gave a hoot about politics...we were totally anti-society.


Thanks! Can I ask, how did you find say, 'On the Road' during the time - and have you re-read it since maybe? Has your opinion of it changed at all?

Love Plath's poetry, stunning
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Originally posted by js js wrote:

I get the feeling the beats were never as homogeneous as the hippies eventually became...


Agreed - that sounds about right to me (only from reading and/or watching interviews of course)
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