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Poll Question: The original avant-garde, pick a favorite.
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    Posted: 05 Sep 2012 at 3:41am
A famous quote from composer Charles Ives regarding new music:

"Stop being such a God-damned sissy! Why can't you stand up before fine strong music like this and use your ears like a man?"
- At a 1931 concert of Ives's and Ruggles's music, a man booed during one of Ruggles's works



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote js Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Sep 2012 at 3:46am
This poll is about the people who invented avant-garde jazz, I'm sure I forgot somebody Ermm

My vote goes to Sun Ra, love that sense of humor and contrary attitude.
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You forgot Eric Dolphy Confused

Voted for Ayler, not because he was the best, but because I just subjectively like him more from the list of equal giants. The others I would like to vote besides of Ayler are John & Alice Coltranes, Archie Shepp, Eric Dolphy...


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Actually Dolphy is one of my favorites too. You always forget somebody..Disapprove
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Ornette Coleman for me, Sun Ra was a close second.

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Hmm, I'll say Pharoah Sanders although he probably is the less avant-garde. I love how he continued and developed Coltrane's A Love Supreme-style of work. 

Archie Shepp is up there.

I probably like the less avant works of Sun Ra.
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Originally posted by snobb snobb wrote:

You forgot Eric Dolphy Confused

Voted for Ayler, not because he was the best, but because I just subjectively like him more from the list of equal giants. The others I would like to vote besides of Ayler are John & Alice Coltranes, Archie Shepp, Eric Dolphy...
 
Indeed... Impulse!'s New Thing was THE avant-garde for me... though it (free-jazz/Avant) started sooner than the birth of that great orange label
 
 
 
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I went to Ornette Coleman. I have some albums of Ornette Coleman, and it likes all. However, I have a favorite by an album unit about the musician with reference to a list.

I still often hear the avant-garde performance that Anthony Braxton and Marion Brown went. Or it is David S. Ware and David Murray.

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McCoy Tyner, I love those quartal voicings.
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Though I like what I've heard from a few of these names, and how much I like Tyner and Keith, I actually have more Alice Coltrane than any other single artist on the list, and so I've voted there
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cannonball With Hat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Sep 2012 at 4:38am
It's hard to get me to not vote for Sun Ra in a poll.
 
Brotzmann and Coleman would round out my top three.
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I know very few of these, hopefully that will soon change as I find Avant-Garde Jazz very intriguing. Anyways, I voted for Coleman, I'm really enjoying his stuff so far.
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For what albums does Keith Jarrett count? At least out of the albums I have listened to, only Nude Ants would count as avant...

Many favorites here, but I decided to vote for Don Cherry.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote snobb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Feb 2013 at 2:35pm
Keith Jarrett played avant-garde jazz on some his early (mostly US-quartet's) albums
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Sun Ra is simply the man
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