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    Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 4:43pm
One of the best Jazz/Rock artists IMO, but what's yours?
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He has his moments.

My favourite Zappa thing is the 2 seconds of greasy double bass at the beginning of Little Umbrellas.
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Personally I don't really know what my favorite Zappa thing is, though it might be my first listen to Apostrophe, or when I got infected with Frank Zappa...LOL
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Love him, but I burnt myself out on his music years ago and am still trying to reclaim that magical time. These days, if I'm even in the mood, I can only listen to one album of his at a time before I have to move on.
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I'm a pretty huge Zappa fanatic. I love his early Mothers recordings, I love his solo stuff in the 70's, and I even moderately enjoy some his silly 80's albums. All around genius IMO. 
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One of my all time favorite artists for sure. One Size Fits All is my favorite album by Zappa. Everything I love about him squeezed into that little package. For this site I give the tip to The Grand Wazoo. Wonderful album, my favorite of his trilogy of early jazz rock/fusion albums.
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the dude was a genius. both as composer and guitarist. but i just wish he would've stuck to instrumentals after the first few Mothers albums. the lyrics just kill so much of his music for me. either that, or only allow Captain Beefheart to sing for him.
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yknow, FZ has jazz and jazz/fusion moments ALL OVER his huge discography, but the albums that really focus on the jazz, i consider some of the best in the genre by any artist. For someone who didn't even like to TALK about jazz, he sure knew how to do it well and unique
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A legendary musician.
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A big Zappa fan myself, especially his mid seventies period, One Size Fits All being my favourite album of his.
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I have one of his double live albums on CD. It's wonderful.
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My first experience was The Grand Wazoo followed by Hot Rats and I was infected. Fantastic stuff. Since then I have collected a good cross section of Zappa/Mothers material. Currently oozing over Yellow Shark.
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Still got all his vinyls from the first up to "Zappa in New York" plus some bootlegs.

I've seen him twice, first at Hamburg 1974 and then at Hannover in 1976. This is from the Hannover-concert:

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I approach him with caution cos he can go from genius -
Zoot Allures - Zappa In New York -
to stupidity
- Joes Garage
 
However Zappa is definitely legendary and indispensable to the jazz fusion movement
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Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

to stupidity
- Joes Garage
 
Watermelon in Easter Hay is stupidity?
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Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

I approach him with caution cos he can go from genius -
Zoot Allures - Zappa In New York -
to stupidity
- Joes Garage
 
However Zappa is definitely legendary and indispensable to the jazz fusion movement
 
I always ahd the thought that Frank might have been more responsible for fusion that we give him credit for, although as mentioned above, there are times when one album is enough ... and I would suggest that the lyrics are the culprit here.
 
But if one can shut that off a bit, yeah, there is some seriously good music and the compositional ability is very good and way up and above a lot of folks that were known for "fusion", as this guy was fusing a lot more than just jazz and rock ... a heck of a lot more that we could handle, and still can't!
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Originally posted by Moshkito Moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

I approach him with caution cos he can go from genius -
Zoot Allures - Zappa In New York -
to stupidity
- Joes Garage
 
However Zappa is definitely legendary and indispensable to the jazz fusion movement
 
I always ahd the thought that Frank might have been more responsible for fusion that we give him credit for, although as mentioned above, there are times when one album is enough ... and I would suggest that the lyrics are the culprit here.
 
But if one can shut that off a bit, yeah, there is some seriously good music and the compositional ability is very good and way up and above a lot of folks that were known for "fusion", as this guy was fusing a lot more than just jazz and rock ... a heck of a lot more that we could handle, and still can't!
Yeah, I often wished Zappa had shut the hell up a few more times to let us appreciate the music behind his silly humour and almost slapstick comedy, prior to thr Hot Rats series
 
Unfortunately he returned very quickly to an even worse kind of scatological and teenage lust humour as soon as Apostrophe until Joe's Garage
 
Yup, he sold lotsa records to zitty male kids in search of losing their virginity in the late 70's... I knowthis because I had a lot of schoolmates into Overnight Sheik's Garage era, mainly because of the texts and guitar heroics (hemerroidsBig smile) needless to say it didn't work well for them, because most girls hated Zappa and stayed clear of anyone who liked himLOL.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....

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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Moshkito Moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

I approach him with caution cos he can go from genius -
Zoot Allures - Zappa In New York -
to stupidity
- Joes Garage
 
However Zappa is definitely legendary and indispensable to the jazz fusion movement
 
I always ahd the thought that Frank might have been more responsible for fusion that we give him credit for, although as mentioned above, there are times when one album is enough ... and I would suggest that the lyrics are the culprit here.
 
But if one can shut that off a bit, yeah, there is some seriously good music and the compositional ability is very good and way up and above a lot of folks that were known for "fusion", as this guy was fusing a lot more than just jazz and rock ... a heck of a lot more that we could handle, and still can't!
Yeah, I often wished Zappa had shut the hell up a few more times to let us appreciate the music behind his silly humour and almost slapstick comedy, prior to thr Hot Rats series
 
Unfortunately he returned very quickly to an even worse kind of scatological and teenage lust humour as soon as Apostrophe until Joe's Garage
 
Yup, he sold lotsa records to zitty male kids in search of losing their virginity in the late 70's... I knowthis because I had a lot of schoolmates into Overnight Sheik's Garage era, mainly because of the texts and guitar heroics (hemerroidsBig smile) needless to say it didn't work well for them, because most girls hated Zappa and stayed clear of anyone who liked himLOL.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Who was he referring to when he said "Shut Up and Play Your Guitar"?
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Originally posted by chuckyspell chuckyspell wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Moshkito Moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

I approach him with caution cos he can go from genius -
Zoot Allures - Zappa In New York -
to stupidity
- Joes Garage
 
However Zappa is definitely legendary and indispensable to the jazz fusion movement
 
I always ahd the thought that Frank might have been more responsible for fusion that we give him credit for, although as mentioned above, there are times when one album is enough ... and I would suggest that the lyrics are the culprit here.
 
But if one can shut that off a bit, yeah, there is some seriously good music and the compositional ability is very good and way up and above a lot of folks that were known for "fusion", as this guy was fusing a lot more than just jazz and rock ... a heck of a lot more that we could handle, and still can't!
Yeah, I often wished Zappa had shut the hell up a few more times to let us appreciate the music behind his silly humour and almost slapstick comedy, prior to thr Hot Rats series
 
Unfortunately he returned very quickly to an even worse kind of scatological and teenage lust humour as soon as Apostrophe until Joe's Garage
 
Yup, he sold lotsa records to zitty male kids in search of losing their virginity in the late 70's... I knowthis because I had a lot of schoolmates into Overnight Sheik's Garage era, mainly because of the texts and guitar heroics (hemerroidsBig smile) needless to say it didn't work well for them, because most girls hated Zappa and stayed clear of anyone who liked himLOL.
 
 
 
Who was he referring to when he said "Shut Up and Play Your Guitar"?
Yeah I know, but that's cheatingTongue , because it's a compilation of his "rare" live guitar solos all gathered ion one disc to make the male teenagers drool over his guitar on top of his smut!!!
 
 
 
 
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....

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Hi,
 
On Guy Guden's blog, there is one where he discusses Frank Zappa, and what had become of him. In the end, it would come back to hurt him, despite the great music, which he himself, sometimes, did not believe in. I think he was bored and that was one way for him to have some fun ... but yeah ... it does get nerve wrecking and boring after a while.
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