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Moshkiae ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Dec 2024 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 157 |
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Hi,
BTW, my count is anywhere between 50 and 100 ... never counted these things, as I only maintain the music I love, and what it is, rarely enters the equation.
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Pedro Sena www.pedrosena.com
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Steve Wyzard ![]() JMA Jazz Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jun 2015 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 34 |
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I have over 1,000, and I keep telling myself that it's only a matter of time before I reach saturation point. But then I discover some new good stuff...
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Apr 2011 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 152 |
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I'm probably around 150 total. Which includes HardBop, Traditional/Swing/Ragtime and Modern. Over half is BlueNote titles. All LP format....
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My jazz collection....a work in progress.
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Moshkiae ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Dec 2024 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 157 |
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Hi, It's only "old news" in that most of the folks running a business always want to keep it all their lifetime, and often do not pay attention to what is around them. Portland had Everyday Music and the Burnside folks and they were big, but they did not believe, or gave a damn about the Internet ... and this is where most of those stores lost it ... they could have, easily, listed everything and sold it online ... but in the end ... you know the issue? They did not do a proper "inventory" and did not know what they had or were missing ... a listing of which would be a great start for a database to create a website ... and they didn't. The tough side of it, is that the really big stores in California (Rasputin/Amoeba) do have an Internet presence, but they are not very good at maintaining their inventory, and that causes a problem ... in Rasputin's case, you just about have to keep folks maintaining an inventory 24/7 so you can keep up with the listing of that you have available for sale ... but my imagination has this idea that a Rasputin store, probably has a list of 1700 titles to add to the database this week, and only 2 people to do so. And thus, the online thing suffers, and in reality can only do songs by a band ... which places like Bandcamp, Spotify and others handle ... however, these are owned by the same record companies that stole so much from the artists and the fans ... and no one will be able to make a living with any of those at all ... you have to sell your own to improve matters, and several bands DID ... and benefit for it these days. But the real issue with a lot of record stores, was ... availability of a lot of things, which was almost exclusively centered on the top 100 so to speak ... and the rest ... nobody buys it anyway, or at least there is no money to make if you only sell one! But if it not "there" and "available" ... now you have a totally different issue, and the Internet has this resolved, the record stores DON'T. And as such, will likely keep falling apart as time goes on. SIDE NOTE: One of the worst things about these stores, any of them really, is that their selection was not, in the end, very good, and when you want to get one or two specific things, they will not show interest in getting it for you so they can make $1 dollar more ... and to me, that was what killed a lot of these stores in the last 10/15 years ... their catalog dropped, and the ability to get people in dropped some more ... why would I go there for a sub-standard and top 20 inventory if I am one with specialist tastes? Heck, the guy in Everyday Music would not order me some ECM stuff, and instead stated that they dropped ECM from their ordering! How many more people do you want to say ... duck off!
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js ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site admin Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 35948 |
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I'm really surprised Portland doesn't have a record store. San Francisco still has some, but not as many as they used to. Internet sales are killing retail stores of all kinds, but that's old news by now.
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Moshkiae ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Dec 2024 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 157 |
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Hi, I think larger cities have a chance to keep them longer ... but elsewhere, it's pretty much gone ... Portland here had a couple of decent ones, but one day ... they were gone. Vancouver (WA) doesn't have arts at all, and no record stores as such ... a lot of old crap and those used everything stores and that's about it ... but seeing Tower go down, so badly, was sad ... but there are still some in the LA area, although I am not sure that any of them had IMPORTS like Moby Disk did for so long in Van Nuys. I imagine that NY would have one or two really good record stores ... since there is so much music to get and see in NY ... but I don't know, otherwise,
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js ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site admin Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 35948 |
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We have two very good record stores here in Memphis, they sell used vinyl and new as well.
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Moshkiae ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Dec 2024 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 157 |
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Hi, I think the story of a record store, or a music store that carries CD's is almost over ... and I hope that folks in the music business start to take over their own work, instead of hoping someone else does it for you ... they don't, and you will only receive a check for $10 dollars at the end of the year, with no way possible to find out how many listens it really had at all ... But, these days, the only place I buy anything is online ... there is no other option, not to mention that the local outlets were ALWAYS lousy at selection and specially requests. The variety is insane compared to the really bad/poor selections at the store, up to and including the big ones I visited, Rasputin in Berkeley (had jazz classical on different store down the street I think), The Tower in Hollywood (very poor after the top 100 of anything), and The Warehouse in Westwood (several floors). The nice one, just for an example and kicks, is Powell's bookstore in Portland ... a whole city block with several floors and you won't be able to peruse everything you want to because the amount in one selection or another is so huge that you will end up checking a lot of them to see if one kicks you in! But it is a place, that you better decide to spend several hours and have some coffee in their cafe, and then go back to going crazy looking everywhere! It's literally an impossibility, and of course ... the worst part is that doing it ONLINE is not helping you find anything ... because your mind flying all over is more likely to want to try this area now and then that area ... until you have 15 books in your hands, and go ... I don't have enough moolah for all that and now it the curse ... having to put away some of the choices you made ... you'll never be happy with that!!!! I guarantee you! Side Note: Just saw that special on Tower Records, and it only really showed that for all their talent in staying with with the technology, by the time things got to downloads, they decided/thought it was all being stolen and did not create a site to sell the music ... and that was very stupid ...Apple, alone made a killing of it, and Tower should have been the one, specially as many artists loved their store and story (Elton John and Bruce Springsteen prominent on the special). But if you were from a small town, yo never saw that much and what it meant to so many ... and this is likely to be the hard part of a lot of jazz for many years, and I can only hope that the Internet wakes up to "jazz" a lot more as soon as the kids start getting tired of the commercial attitudes towards all "songs" ... it's not even about the music, and the jazz folks could make a huge difference here! AND SHOULD!
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Cannonball With Hat ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Joined: 10 Apr 2011 Location: The Opium Den Status: Offline Points: 1212 |
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In 10 years, I've easily gone past the 200 barrier now.
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Hit it on Five.
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birdtranescoe ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() Joined: 16 Feb 2021 Location: MT usa Status: Offline Points: 50 |
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I have about 3.5 K cds (although over 50% is avant jazz or otherwise new/experimental or ethnic -like Cage, Xenakis, Zorn, Brazilian, Asian, Indian, etc). Yes I'm obsessed.
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BeBop ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: 25 Oct 2019 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Yes, Brussels has a great array of record/music shops (not specific to jazz). Antwerp/Anvers and Ghent/Gand are nice-enough too. The number of Brussels shop openings the past five years or so has been very encouraging! Berlin is doing well too. Specific to jazz, Brussels is maybe not great, but even book+record shops like Pele-Mele and some of the places along/next to Rue Midi are worth a stop. I can't remember if the place next to the Grand-Place was still in business last time I passed by. ("Collectors Record Shop" or something) Amazing that it would last as long as it did in the high-rent location!
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Grumpyprogfan ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Sep 2019 Location: Kansas City Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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Maybe 150
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Frenetic Zetetic ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Jul 2018 Location: New Hampshire Status: Offline Points: 8 |
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Pushing about 100 total Jazz discs!
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Stopbyforjazz ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Jan 2019 Location: north america Status: Offline Points: 21 |
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I'm somewhere between-250-300 lp's and still adding.
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FromArmstrongtoZappa ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Apr 2013 Location: Northeast US Status: Offline Points: 63 |
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I have about 400 jazz lps.
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www.FromArmstrongtoZappa.blogspot.com
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Argonaught ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Mar 2013 Location: Virginia Status: Offline Points: 53 |
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I can tell with reasonable accuracy how many I have on active listening duty: 90 to 100 and a couple more on their way :) -- mostly in the bop, modal, Afro-Cuban, third stream and fusion categories.
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Sean Trane ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Apr 2011 Location: Brussels Status: Offline Points: 791 |
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You know, I only think we're always a few years late on what happens in the US (except maybe for the gun ownership issue
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my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
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js ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site admin Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 35948 |
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Well I'm not surprised that a European library would be better than one in the US. People here are more interested in gun ownership than cultural institutions, ha.
A lot of libraries here, and music school libraries, have sold off their record collections at big garage sales. When I lived in San Francisco I attended sales for the city college music school and picked up hundreds of modern composition LPs in near perfect condition.
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Sean Trane ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Apr 2011 Location: Brussels Status: Offline Points: 791 |
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OK, I was painting a fairly bad picture of Brussels' record store situation, but I must say that there are still two bigger chains aound, though they hardly are music & DVD only stores...
the old FNAC (a French cultural chain store that's been around since the 70's)-: they deal books, DVDs Cds, but also TVs, photowares, computer and phones. At one pint, they had an excellent selections in musuic, when there was big competition (a Fame and a Virgin megastores had opened in the late 90's, but both closed a few years later, while the FNAC remains... needless to say their superb music offer has gone down the drain with no competition anymore.>> I rarely go there (1 or 2x/year). Oddly enough , the only other big store is the German chain Mediamearkt, (the other biggie is Saturn, but only in Antwerp so far) but these guys deal everything household-wise, not just cultural/entertaunement stuff >> this is very Germa, to find King Crimson"s LTIA boxset some five meters away from fridges and dishwashers... and yert, these guys know how to present a good selection... you get some pretty acute stuff (like Truffaz or Braxton) next to Lady Gaga ... Never seems to stop wondering me. >> However, not only is it difficuklt access downtown, I hate crowds, so I rarely go there as well (1x every two or three months) That's why I say Amazon is my choice for jazz (usually after I heard it through my library system) ====================== as for my library system, yeah, they certainly won't buy every version of say Telemann's string quartet, but the library-buying-guys know their stuff pertty well. It's not your normal local library... Les Médiathèques De Belgique is a national institution that's existed since the 30's (well Belgium is almost smaller than Lake Superior, and divided between the Flemish and the Frenchspeaking areas, so it's divided into two sections), with some/many local antennas (there are seven in Brussels alone, but every city above 80K people has at least one), with a huge central collection that dispatches once a week the reserved Cds/vinyls/DVDS, pedagogic photos (yes, this helps the teachers as well >> they borrow free of charge) to the local antennas (who have their own selection to browse upon as well) >>> So if you're looking for a certain version of a symphony, you mifght have to search and dig in their catalogue, order /reserve it and wait one or two weeks before getting it, depending on how many people are interested before >> I could be six or eigth weeks before you get the latest ECM release, unless they bought more than one copy. But I guess thuis is simply too long to wait nowadays for most peoplen, since you can get it almost instantly on the web I have the luck to have an antenna some 200m away from my Brussels pas,and the ultra-luck that they've merged with a normal local iibrary (books only) >> Despite their many flaws, I fu...g love Brussels and Belgium ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() (BTW, France has something similar, but since the country is at a fairly different scale (size anf population wise), but I'm not aware The Netherlands (where I work) and Germany have similar systems..) |
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my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
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js ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site admin Joined: 22 Dec 2010 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 35948 |
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Classical fans are usually looking for a very specific version of a piece, and they will pay big bucks to get it, while a library may have more generic versions of well known pieces.
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