Top 10 ECM albums?
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Topic: Top 10 ECM albums?
Posted By: Abraxas
Subject: Top 10 ECM albums?
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 7:06pm
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Ok, I know there's a thread concerning this music label, but let's make it faster. I'm interested in knowing what you guys would consider the 10 Essential ECM Albums at your criteria.
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Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 7:38pm
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It was difficult for me to elect ten albums. However, I thought that these albums always started listing. This is personally favorite of me. RTF - 1st In addition, I recommend "Neighbourhood" of Manu Katche as a personal favorite album. |
Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 7:44pm
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^thanks, will have to check the Kuhn and Rypdal albums! I'm just listening to Koln Concert for the first time, amazing.
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Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 8:01pm
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Yes. Koln Concert is a really wonderful album. And,a better recommendation is believed for Slarti to appear at once perhaps and to be done. |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2011 at 9:32pm
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I'm not a big ECM fan, but I remember being very impressed with Steve Reich's Music for 18 Musicians (or is it 16?) Also, an ECM sampler i had from the late 70s seemed very modern at the time with its mix of minimalist composers and world jazz like Codona, that was a cool record.
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 12:54am
I am here with Kazuhiro's ECM No.1 - Chick Corea's Returmn To Forever album is possibly greatest ECM release I ever heard. The other what comes to mind is Jan Garbarek's debut on ECM - "Afric Pepperbird". Overall almost all greatest ECM releases come from very early 70s when the label was really progressive. With mid 70s pop/world fusion and pop/third stream becoming their moving power for me ECM became respectable but boring label (with later new age/jazz cocktails they became not simply boring but sometimes just terribly boring). Few last decades long they try to refresh their program a bit with some success, but do it on very safe manner.
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Kazuhiro wrote:Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 3:10am
in chronological order                ------------- I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ... Ken Burns |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 3:24am
| ^ You reminded me another great ECM album - the debut again: Nels Petter Molvaer "Khmer". Excellent Nordic folk roots and some simplistic electronics, cool airy sound.One of nu jazz cornerstone release. Quite unusual release for ECM (Molvaer will change the label soon after this release). |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 4:12am
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Wow, tricky question, because I'm not a big ECM fan either
I'll try to make out a list this week.... just picked up last year's ECM label catalogue... and I'll leaf through it to make sure I don't miss out on something unforgiveable.
to me, RTF's first album is certainly the best.... but i'll add to that soon.
------------- my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....  |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 10:12am
| Bennie Maupin - The Jewel In The Lotus is between ECM best releases as well. |
Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 12:17pm
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Thanks for all the recs, keep them coming. Some favorites of mine that haven't been mentioned: Watercolours by Metheny (as well as all the early PMG albums) Crystal Silence by Corea/Burton Timeless by Abercrombie And well, Manfred Schoof's albums belong to the JAPO label which derives from ECM, so that counts I think. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2011 at 3:42am
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In a somawhat chronoligical and preferrence order
Chick Corea - Return To Forever
Mal Waldron - The Call
Terje Rypdal - Whenever I seem To Be So Far Away & What Comes After
Julian Priester & Pepo Mtoto - Love, Love
Bernie Maupin - The Jewel In The Lotus
Keith Jarrett - The Koln Concert
Azimuth - Departure John Surman/John Warren - The Brass Project
Worth a mention (but not that I would one day own them)
Metheny's New Chateauqua, Offramp and Amzerican Garage
Abercrombie's Gateway series
I still have to explore (after that I think, I'll have to give iot a rest)
Kenny Wheeler's Music For Large Ensemble (90) and Long Time Ago (98)
Miroslav Vitous's The Journey (82) and Universal Syncopations (03)
John Surman Stranger Than Fiction (93) and Adventure Playground (91)
The Music Improvisation Company 's ST album with Jamie Muir (70)
Globe Unity Improvisation's Compositions and Improvisations (79 & 77)
Jan Garbarek's Sart (71) Afric Pepperbird (72) and Places (77)
Steve Khun's Trance (74)
Dave Holland Quintet's Jumping In and Shades Of Time (83 & 84)
Holland/Phillips's Music For Two Basses (71)
Bill Connors - Of Mist And Meting (78)
Elton Dean - Boundaries (80)
Gary Burton Quintet w Eberhard Weber's Rong, Dream So Real and Passengers (74 to 76) I'm also looking for recommendations in
Michael Mantler's and Charles Lloyd's ECM and/or Watt discography
Art Ensemble Of Chicago's ECM catalogue
------------- my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones.... |
Posted By: Moshkito
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2011 at 7:08pm
Idlero ... One of these days I'm gonna cut you up into little pieces ... that's too much music !!!
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Posted By: Moshkito
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2011 at 7:16pm
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Hi,
Ok ... my top ten? ... just don't call me an ol' foggie!
The order is negligeable and not important.
Keith Jarrett - The Koln Concert (the best piano concert ever recorded, classic or otherwise!)
Egberto Gismonti - No Caipira
Egberto Gismonti - Sol do Meio Dia
Jan Garbarek - Eventyr
Jan Garbarek/Gismonti/Haden - Magico
Terje Rypdal - (with David Darling) Eos
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I have to look at the names of the albums ... but th eartists are:
Eberhard Weber
John Abercrombie
Charlie Haden
David Darling
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Posted By: Polo
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2011 at 1:05pm
Those are all great albums. Egberto é um gênio. The only ECM album I physically own is this one:  and it's really good. -------------  That's Kenny G with Miles Davis on my avatar, by the way. |
Posted By: Moshkito
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2011 at 5:10pm
... muito especial! Musica maravilhosa!
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Posted By: darkprinceofjazz
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2011 at 9:07pm
| Julian Priester's Love,Love is my personal favorite, Ironically it is not what I would call a typical ECM release, It's sound is not icy cold nor European sounding, Meaning, blues less , This is atmospheric Jazz funk, sort of a sister album of the Hancock Mwandishi Albums, and maybe better. I am leaning that way after years of comparison. I don't mean this as a slam of ECM, I happen to really like the chamber jazz sound of Terje Rypdal, and John Surman and the like. That Trio Beyond saudades live double cd is killer, any of the 21st Century Paul Motian albums are real good, Metheny's Off ramp, any of the Dave Holland albums are worth while. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2011 at 10:40am
Tough one, just 10 favorites:
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Posted By: zoviet
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2011 at 2:18pm
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Terje Rypdal - 1st Terje Rypdal - Odyssey Terje Rypdal - Waves Barre Phillips - Mountainscapes Barre Phillips - Three Day Moon Markus Stockhausen - Karta Jon Hassell - Power Spot Pat Metheny Group - s/t Pat Metheny & Lyle Mays - As Wichita Falls So Falls Wichita Julian Priester - Love Love |
Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2011 at 10:18pm
GREAT STUFF! Thanks for that.
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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2011 at 12:12am
Cool
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Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2011 at 12:18am
Have you heard 'Different Trains'?
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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2011 at 1:14am
| No, is that Steve Reich? |
Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2011 at 1:18am
Yep. Kronos Quartet and Metheny contributing. If you're in the mood: |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2011 at 1:36am
| Interesting, they should play that quietly in the background in train stations, ha. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2011 at 5:35am
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The crack train from New York from New York. One of my newer ECMs:  ------------- 
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2011 at 3:25am
Mmmmhhh!!!...
I'm pretty sure thatBleak House was a Polydor release   ------------- my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones.... |
Posted By: Moshkito
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2011 at 8:48pm
I remember when I saw this advert in Melody Maker that Ash Ra Tempel and Terje Rypdal's Odyssey were playing together in London somewhere ... and a couple of months later the "Odyssey" album showed up at the station and Guy Guden played it, and a couple of other folks also liked a couple of pieces in the album ... and while I liked it, and enjoyed listening to it, I could not help thinking that I was listening to a jazz band that was not interested in being a jazz band ... and that Terje was actually adding something to the bottom end, and it didn't matter if that bottom was jazz, rock, or anything else.
I still ahve over 10 or 12 LP's of his music and like everyone of them ... but I am not sure that the majority of the music he does is actually "jazz" ... it just fits in a different place, and I really consider the majority of the work, plain classical music with the electric guitar being the instrument instead of a violin or anything else.
But it will be another 100 years before the electric guitar is considered a bona fide instrument in an orchestra! It's too bad, because even Frank Zappa showed that you could conduct an electric guitar just fine! ... and it's still not done! ------------- ... And then one day, the prophet said that you and I would know what is art ... and real! |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2011 at 11:11am
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I've tried not to have more than one entry from the same artist, (anybody spot where I've broke that rule?). Alphabetically:
John Abercrombie - Night
Chick Corea - Improvision 1
Everyman Band - Without Warning
Jan Garbarek/Agnes Buen Garnas - Rosensfole
Heiner Goebbels - Man In The Elevator (Der Mann Im Fahrstuhl) Pat Metheny Group - American Garage
Terj Rypdal - Chaser
John Surman - Road To St Ives
David Torn - Cloud About Mercury
Ralph Towner - Solo Concert
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Posted By: gnombient
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2011 at 7:29pm
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Tough poll, many great albums to choose from! Some of my favorites:
John Abercrombie: Timeless
Abercrombie/Holland/DeJohnette - Gateway
Barre Phillips - Mountainscapes
Pat Metheny - Bright Size Life
Shankar - Pancha Nadai Pallavi
Julian Priester - Love, Love
Eberhard Weber - Colours of Chloe
Colin Walcott - Cloud Dance
Terje Rypdal/Miroslav Vitous/Jack DeJohnette - s/t
Gary Burton - Dreams So Real
Classical/Early music
Ambrose Field & John Potter - Being Dufay
Arvo Part - Miserere
Paul Hillier - Proensa
Rolf Lislevand - Nuove Musiche
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Posted By: darkprinceofjazz
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2011 at 1:11pm
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Dave Holland - Not for Nothing' Marc Johnson - Shades of Jade Terje Rypdal - Odyssey Terje Rypdal - After the Rain Pat Metheny - Off Ramp Paul Motian - Garden of Eden Trio Beyond - Suadades Keith Jarrett - The Survivors Suite Jan Garbarek - Witchi -Tai- To Nik Bartsch's Ronin - Holon |
Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 12:50am
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I've recently discovered Azimuth and I'd like to share it with you: Wonderful stuff.
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Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 1:22am
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Not really any particular order except the top five. They are all good for me
Arvo Part......"Alina" not Jazz but something beautiful. Neo Classical is that the term? whatever, not often you hear me having anything remotely to do with Classical
Tomaz Stanko......"Leosia"
Tomaz Stanko......" From The Green Hill"
Tomaz Stanko......"The Soul Of Things"
He did them all in a row, someone must have been putin' something in his coffee, marvellous to say the least
Keith Jarrett......"Whisper Not"
Louis Sclavis........"L'affrontment des Pretendants"
Chick Corea......"Return To Forever"
Jan Garbarek......"Rites".............bloody awesome
Dave Holland...........".Not For Nothin"
Tord Gustavsen Trio.........."Changing Places"...........for those quiet reflective times.........yeah, if you believe that with me. ------------- Matt |
Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 1:34am
| Yes. "Not for Nothing" is a cool album. I think that "Dream of the Elders" is a good album if Dave Holland of this time is post bop which went. |
Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 12:54pm
------------- Matt |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2013 at 2:46am
it looks no-one mentioned "Conference Of The Birds" ?!  |
Posted By: kaukbert
Date Posted: 06 Aug 2018 at 3:10pm
| yes, The Everyman band features David Torn, love Cloud about mercury and Prezens. What are the Every Man band albums like? |
Posted By: kaukbert
Date Posted: 06 Aug 2018 at 3:20pm
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I'm new on here, just joined tonight, would you mind if I gave you my top 10?. John Abercrombie Gateway Ralph Towner Solstice Miroslav Vitous Universal Syncopations Kieth Jarrett Koln Concert Bill Connors Swimming with A Hoe in My body Jan Garbarek Belonging Enrico Rava Pilgrim and the Stars Pat Metheny Bright Size Life Jan Garbarek Star Jan garbarek Eventyr |
Posted By: Frederic_Alderon
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2018 at 2:40pm
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Steve Reich – Music for 18 Musicians Pat Metheny: New Chautauqua (1979) Egberto Gismonti: Solo (1979) Arvo Pärt: Arbos (1987) Steve Tibbetts: Big Map Idea (1989) Meredith Monk: Book of Days (1990) Paul Bley: Solo in Mondsee (2007) Dino Saluzzi and Anja Lechner: Ojos Negros (2007) Vijay Iyer – Break Stuff (2015) Keith Jarrett: Facing You (1971)
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Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2018 at 2:48pm
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Nice list Frederic. I actually have Anja Lechner on now coincidentally in Tarkovsky Quartet "Nuit Blanche". She is a wonderful cello player. or violincello as they list her on albums. I have been meaning to get Dino Saluzzi with her as you have listed above. Still haven't heard that one. ------------- Matt |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2020 at 7:33am
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Couldn't just do 10. This list could change tomorrow. Abercrombie/Holland/DeJohnette - Gateway Pat Metheny & Lyle Mays - As Falls Wichita, So Falls Wichita Falls John Clark - Faces Chick Corea - Return To Forever Ralph Towner - Solstice David Darling - Cycles Terje Rypdal/Miroslav Vitous/Jack DeJohnette Pat Metheny Group - Offramp
Eberhard Weber - Yellow Fields Richard Beirach - Elm Steve Tibbetts - Safe Journey Julian Priester - Love, Love Keith Jarrett - The Survivors' Suite Marc Johnson - Bass Desires Jan Garbarek - Places ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2020 at 12:30pm
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Chick Corea Return to Forever Julian Priester Love Love Steve Reich Music for 18 Musicians Terje Rypdal Waves Terje Rypdal Descendre
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Posted By: MarcusJazz
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2021 at 11:19am
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Keith Jarrett "My foolish heart" Chick Corea "Return to forever" Jan Garbarek "Dresden" Miroslav Vitous "Universal syncopations" Terje Rypdal "Blue" Marc Johnson "Bass desires" Zakir Hussain "Making music" Chick Corea and Gary Burton "In Concert Zurich" Dave Holland "Extensions" Anouar Brahem "Le voyage de sahar" |
Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2022 at 4:05pm
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Can't believe I haven't responded to this yet! 1. Ralph Towner/Gary Burton - Matchbook (1975) 2. Tomasz Stanko Quartet - Suspended Night (2004) 3. Chick Corea/Gary Burton - Crystal Silence (1973) 4. Enrico Rava - The Plot (1977) 5. Jan Garbarek/Bobo Stenson - Witchi-Tai-To (1974) 6. John Abercombie - Current Events (1986) 7. Old and New Dreams - Playing (1980) 8. Eberhard Weber - Yellow Fields (1976) 9. Tomasz Stanko Quartet - Soul of Things (2002) 10. Kenny Wheeler - Double Double You (1984) Honorable mentions: 11. Gary Burton Quintet - Passengers (1977) 12. Charlie Haden/Jan Garbarek/Egberto Gismonti - Magico (1980) |