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Dick Heath
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Yes. Post Soft Machine collaboration with Ric Sanders, jazz rock folk made before the violinist headed off to the Fairports - issued on CD by Blueprint. A reminder that Etheridge has played with a lot of violinists during his career - Darryl Way, Nigel Kennedy, Stephane Grapelli also immediately come to mind. |
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darkshade
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overall I agree about the 80s, but there was good stuff from that decade. 90's fusion is generally my least preferred, which is why I love 2000s fusion. It's like a fusion of 70s fusion with 2000s rock/metal energy, or maybe infuse more funk and jazz. Either way, I think I like 2000s fusion so much because of the great production values compared to 80s and 90s |
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Sean Trane
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Anybody knows of Second Vision with John Etheridge??
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my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
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Jazz Pianist
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Sean Trane
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Really not a fan of most 80's fusion.... It had lost all kinds of energy compared to the 70's.... bad synth and shoddy 80's production values are also major setbacks. It's why I don't really like ECM-type of fusion.... too cool and dead, IMHO.
90's are not much better, but it seems that energy levels were on the rise... and some of those 80's trademarks disappeared
Of couse, synclaviers (I refuse to put a capital s to that crap) are the worst thing that could've happened to jazz guitar.... it took all of the biting edge of guitar sounds and smoothed it out beyond commen sense.
Listen to McL throughout the 80's, he sounds like a weenie version of his former self
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my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
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Abraxas
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^Yes, American Garage is fantastic up-lifting fusion.
Offramp has grown on me a lot, its dark mood, I now find it another masterful album.
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Kazuhiro
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Features might be united to some degree as the music character of PMG. Each characteristic and the idea by ECM and Geffen might have joined it, too. PMG in the 80's might often have the element of World Fusion. I think initial PMG also for an experimental element to exist as a subjective opinion. I thought one directionality to have been established when Pat Metheny announced the off-ramp. Point that Pat Metheny considered band anyway. And, it is convinced that the existence of Lyle Mays is very important for PMG. |
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Kazuhiro
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Yes. American Garage is a good album. Or, Still Life is also good. I often listen to them.
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Abraxas
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Which one? American Garage?
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Kazuhiro
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Still, I think that the fusion album that PMG announced in the 80's is good.
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dwill123
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Did someone say synth guitar, boring. McLaughlin gets good sound from his.
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Prog Geo
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Yes. But that's interesting.
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js
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I was mostly kidding, some people get nice things out of them, but a lot of guitar players in the 80s used really cheesy sounds with their synth guitars.
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Prog Geo
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Wait, synth guitars are considered boring?
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js
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^ synth guitars?
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trinidadx13
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Love 70's fusion....the holy grail in fusion. Why did the 80's get so boring?
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darkshade
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We should have a thread for 80s fusion, 90s fusion, and 2000s fusion
Honestly, I think I have less 90s fusion than from any other decade |
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The Truth
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Indeed, some of my favorite music comes from this genre. My favorite jazz album is Big Fun by Miles Davis which IMO defines this era of fusion. Can't really go wrong with anything from 70's fusion.
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seb2112
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I got into jazz fusion through the prog side of things, and fusion is 95% of the jazz I listen to. I`m listening to a Soft Machine live CD from the period where Holdsworth was playing guitar for them right now and loving it. Some great bands not yet mentioned in this thread are Passport and Nucleus, two of the first bands I got into when I started discovering fusion. It`s hard to draw the line between fusion jazz and canterburry prog, I really enjoy Gilgamesh and National Health and I`d say they`re pretty darn close to being fusion.
Rahmann only released one album, but it`s a damn good one. I concider it fusion, but it`s often classified as Zeuhl or RIO because of it`s association with Magma (a band of which I am NOT a fan)
Hermann Szobel only recorded one album and then disapeared off the face of the world, but it is easily in my top 5 70`s fusion records and well worth checking out for anyone who has never heard it
Bill bruford`s 2 studio and 1 live albums in the fusion genre are also excellent, although I`m not a fan of earthworks
And although they`ve been mentioned, I want to point out thtta the first 3 al di meola records, the first 2 Brand X records and all the musc Mahavishnu Orchestra released in the 70`s are pure gold and amongst the best music ever produced
We should open a thread for fusion post-70s thats worth checking out. Overall the quality of fusion is far from being what it used to be, but we do have some great bands still banging out awesome fusion records like Planeta Imaginario (borderling canterburry prog again) and One Shot (yet another Magma-associated band yet I dislike the ``original`` band so much)
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JACK DEJOHNETTESorcery Album · 1974 · Classic Fusion
The experience of "Sorcery" is a soert of trip to the dreams and shadows of an human mind and for this fact I think that "Sorcery" is a good album if magic, inventive and feelings are what we seek in music. Edited by 1967/ 1976 - 08 May 2011 at 5:01am |
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