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Topic: PianistsPosted By: Jazz Pianist
Subject: Pianists
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 2:50pm
figured due to my name on this site I'd end up creating this poll Here's a list of my personal favourite jazz pianists, some obscure, some very well known, all fantastic players to my eyes and ears. I literally picked my brains out for this list, so if I've missed someone out then they haven't had a huge influence on me... either that or I had a lapse of thought for a few seconds! So apologies if your favourite isn't there, please mention them regardless
Replies: Posted By: Jazz Pianist
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 2:51pm
My personal favourite has always been Billy Taylor for a number of reasons (his use of counterpoint in his solos being one).
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 2:59pm
Voted for Hancock.
It's interesting to see Aziza Mustafa Zadeh on your list
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 3:10pm
I voted for Herbie too, some other favorites:
Sun Ra
Monk
Bill Evans
Martin Denny
George Shearing
Duke Ellington
Bud Powell
Brian Auger (electric piano)
Cecil Taylor
George Duke
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 4:06pm
defintely McCoy Tyner for me,and by a mile...
Easily the best left hand that ever laid its fingers on a keyboard
The man almost plays double lead piano
Herbie, Chick, Joe (Zaw is absent from the list) are fighting for second place
then comes Hank (Elvin's bro), Duke Pearson, Cecil, Keith (Tip is Tops), Jarrett, Thelonious are also diserving a solid mention.
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 4:14pm
Sean Trane wrote:
defintely McCoy Tyner for me,and by a mile...
Easily the best left hand that ever laid its fingers on a keyboard
The man almost plays double lead piano
Sounds really interesting, I always thought the left hand was underused in piano jazz
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Looking into more pianists is a big part of my jazz plans. I was born on the same day as Bud Powell, after all! I'm currently finishing with Bill Evans (who started out really well, but with all the random recordings, I ultimately don't know what to think of him anymore). I might check Peterson next. I saw some transcripts and his fast improvising is craaaaaazy!
But my favourites are definitely Keith Jarrett, Esbjorn Svensson and to a lesser extent Chick Corea. The poll misses Petrucciani, him being at his best usually meant he was the best.
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Posted By: Jazz Pianist
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 5:16pm
Ricochet wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
defintely McCoy Tyner for me,and by a mile...
Easily the best left hand that ever laid its fingers on a keyboard
The man almost plays double lead piano
Sounds really interesting, I always thought the left hand was underused in piano jazz
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Looking into more pianists is a big part of my jazz plans. I was born on the same day as Bud Powell, after all! I'm currently finishing with Bill Evans (who started out really well, but with all the random recordings, I ultimately don't know what to think of him anymore). I might check Peterson next. I saw some transcripts and his fast improvising is craaaaaazy!
But my favourites are definitely Keith Jarrett, Esbjorn Svensson and to a lesser extent Chick Corea. The poll misses Petrucciani, him being at his best usually meant he was the best.
You haven't heard McCoy then
As far as your quest for great jazz pianists go, McCoy would be a fantastic direction to go in. At first he's a little tough to listen to, especially later on, but he's so espressive it's hard not to get dragged into his solos with an open jaw.
If you're into Keith you'll probably dig Billy Taylor too, very enjoyable down to earth playing, a fantastic musical philosopher too. Take a look:
Peterson is good too, although I'm not too keen on overly fast playing I also feel bad saying this, but I haven't heard enough Petrucciani
Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 5:53pm
I'll go with McCoy.
Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 6:15pm
I chose Bill Evans from the list. It often listens to Phineas Newborn Jr and Tete Montoliu because I like expression of feelings melody.
Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 6:23pm
Keith Jarrett! But it was a tough decision.
Posted By: The_Jester
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2011 at 9:27am
Hiromi for sure, she's got a real potential on keyboards and she's actually already a keyboard goddess.
Posted By: triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2011 at 8:10pm
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2011 at 6:24pm
Glenn Gould. Almost jazz.
Posted By: Jazz Pianist
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2011 at 6:49pm
harmonium.ro wrote:
Glenn Gould. Almost jazz.
Oh don't get me started on Gould
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2011 at 11:31am
harmonium.ro wrote:
Glenn Gould. Almost jazz.
He can't even play a decent Schubert, what to expect of jazz.
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Posted By: Jazz Pianist
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2011 at 3:55pm
Ricochet wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
Glenn Gould. Almost jazz.
He can't even play a decent Schubert, what to expect of jazz.
Or Bach I can get more feel out of Sibelius 6...
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 12:34am
Jazz Pianist wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
Glenn Gould. Almost jazz.
He can't even play a decent Schubert, what to expect of jazz.
Or Bach I can get more feel out of Sibelius 6...
Now hold on there...
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 3:13am
I'm a bit surprised that no-one has voted for Thelonius Monk.
------------- my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
Posted By: Jazz Pianist
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 4:31am
Ricochet wrote:
Jazz Pianist wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
Glenn Gould. Almost jazz.
He can't even play a decent Schubert, what to expect of jazz.
Or Bach I can get more feel out of Sibelius 6...
Now hold on there...
I know, a little rash... It's a matter of opinion I suppose, but I can't listen to his Bach renditions. Personal taste, but I think it sounds a bit robotic...
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 7:10am
^ You must have heard his very early recordings, fast, furious and maybe even "robotical", too. His late renditions are very different, moody and sentimental. That's what I love at his style, not the early period.
Rico, I don't know about his Schuberts, but I can live with the idea that no-one is good at everything. ;)
What's the relation between Schubert and jazz, tho? :P
Posted By: Jazz Pianist
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 12:48pm
harmonium.ro wrote:
^ You must have heard his very early recordings, fast, furious and maybe even "robotical", too. His late renditions are very different, moody and sentimental. That's what I love at his style, not the early period.
I must admit his later recording of Goldberg Variations I enjoyed
(although I think he butchered them in his first). Maybe I'll have to
check him out, I heard he did mature as a musician later on in his life.
Speaking of which have you ever heard Jarrett play Bach?
harmonium.ro wrote:
What's the relation between Schubert and jazz, tho? :P
They are both awesome?
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 4:02pm
harmonium.ro wrote:
Rico, I don't know about his Schuberts, but I can live with the idea that no-one is good at everything. ;)
What's the relation between Schubert and jazz, tho? :P
My point was that he mastered little in style beyond Bach's timeline, in order to discuss him all the way to jazz music.
(But I exaggerate, for he looked into Schonberg rather extensively and notably.)
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 4:07pm
Jazz Pianist wrote:
Speaking of which have you ever heard Jarrett play Bach?
I have not listened to his Goldberg Variations. He does offer enough counterpoint fantasy in his own works, though.
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Posted By: Jazz Pianist
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 7:03pm
Ricochet wrote:
Jazz Pianist wrote:
Speaking of which have you ever heard Jarrett play Bach?
I have not listened to his Goldberg Variations. He does offer enough counterpoint fantasy in his own works, though.
I can say with confidence that he is the only player I can think of that plays classical just as well as jazz.
And yeah, there is plenty of counterpoint in his own works! His clavichord stuff is also very interesting.
Posted By: Cannonball With Hat
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 7:27pm
A tough call, mostly because I don't know enough of most of these guys. I'll vote for Brubeck in this poll, but overall my favorite is probably Sun Ra.
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Stab them in the ears.
Posted By: Jazz Pianist
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 7:49pm
Cannonball With Hat wrote:
A tough call, mostly because I don't know enough of most of these guys. I'll vote for Brubeck in this poll, but overall my favorite is probably Sun Ra.
Consider this a source of research if you're into your jazz piano!
Posted By: Cannonball With Hat
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 8:08pm
Absolutely. Definitely been meaning to check out some of the bigger names on this list (Monk, Tyner, Jarret, etc). My jazz collection is still quite poor, especially when it comes to "straight" or "normal" jazz. But I'll definitely keep my eyes peeled for the names that I don't recognize as well.
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Saxophone Scatterbrain Blitzberg
Stab them in the ears.
Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 8:14pm
And, please make the goodness of jazz and JMA known to surroundings further.
Posted By: triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 9:02pm
Sean Trane wrote:
I'm a bit surprised that no-one has voted for Thelonius Monk.
Posted By: Cannonball With Hat
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 12:08am
Kazuhiro wrote:
And, please make the goodness of jazz and JMA known to surroundings further.
Haha, I try but I am only one man.
------------- Hit it on Five.
Saxophone Scatterbrain Blitzberg
Stab them in the ears.
Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 12:21am
As for me, this forum really thought the role like the textbook to be desirous for the beginner of jazz. Even if I choose "Toshiko Akiyoshi" from the list of this vote and it explains her goodness, the beginner might not understand so much. However, I feel the mission that does it.
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 2:58am
triceratopsoil wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
I'm a bit surprised that no-one has voted for Thelonius Monk.
He was my #2
He wouldn't have been in my top 5!!! (I gave mine in my first post on the thread)
but he's generally universally recognized as a genius (although more so in the songwriting dept proper, rather than piano proficiency or virtuosity itself), which is why I'm a little amazed at no-one voting for him...
But at Thelo's defence, the competition he's facing is rather tough.
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 4:59am
Jazz Pianist wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
Jazz Pianist wrote:
Speaking of which have you ever heard Jarrett play Bach?
I have not listened to his Goldberg Variations. He does offer enough counterpoint fantasy in his own works, though.
I can say with confidence that he is the only player I can think of that plays classical just as well as jazz.
And yeah, there is plenty of counterpoint in his own works! His clavichord stuff is also very interesting.
With classical studies, no doubt. I read (though it may be wikipedia junk trivia) that he even rejected the idea of studying under Nadia Boulanger. Already an ego at an early age.
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Posted By: Jazz Pianist
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 5:32am
Ricochet wrote:
Jazz Pianist wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
Jazz Pianist wrote:
Speaking of which have you ever heard Jarrett play Bach?
I have not listened to his Goldberg Variations. He does offer enough counterpoint fantasy in his own works, though.
I can say with confidence that he is the only player I can think of that plays classical just as well as jazz.
And yeah, there is plenty of counterpoint in his own works! His clavichord stuff is also very interesting.
With classical studies, no doubt. I read (though it may be wikipedia junk trivia) that he even rejected the idea of studying under Nadia Boulanger. Already an ego at an early age.
Not only classical studies, but classical studies that he valued as much as jazz studies
OIh boy... I heard he often stops in the middle of the song and tells audience members off for coughing? Ego indeed
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 1:19pm
Yes, as much as I'd love to catch him in concert, there are five significant factors to it these days:
1. Him playing agitated serial music (I can actually live with that, but it's a bizarre new phase nonetheless) 2. Him playing in Japan 3. Him playing in one of the five most prestigious concert halls of the world (in case it's not in Japan) 4. His concert costing me at least 125 euros 5. Him likely to be annoyed by people in the audience breathing and therefore stop playing at all
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Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 3:51pm
Sean Trane wrote:
triceratopsoil wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
I'm a bit surprised that no-one has voted for Thelonius Monk.
He was my #2
He wouldn't have been in my top 5!!! (I gave mine in my first post on the thread)
but he's generally universally recognized as a genius (although more so in the songwriting dept proper, rather than piano proficiency or virtuosity itself), which is why I'm a little amazed at no-one voting for him...
But at Thelo's defence, the competition he's facing is rather tough.
I'm not a musician, but I think that if JMA was more crowded with "old-jazz" school fans, Monk would be an obvious choice.
Besides his compositions, he had a highly original and complex approach to the piano.
Posted By: Jazz Pianist
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 8:07pm
Abraxas wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
triceratopsoil wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
I'm a bit surprised that no-one has voted for Thelonius Monk.
He was my #2
He wouldn't have been in my top 5!!! (I gave mine in my first post on the thread)
but he's generally universally recognized as a genius (although more so in the songwriting dept proper, rather than piano proficiency or virtuosity itself), which is why I'm a little amazed at no-one voting for him...
But at Thelo's defence, the competition he's facing is rather tough.
I'm not a musician, but I think that if JMA was more crowded with "old-jazz" school fans, Monk would be an obvious choice.
Besides his compositions, he had a highly original and complex approach to the piano.
This is true. Thelonious's clanky chordal style has never been successfully emulated. I remember trying one of his transcribed solos and gave up halfway through because it really wasn't comfortable to play. Not technically, just didn't feel right!
@Ricochet:
At least he's still alive, unlike most of my idols
Nevertheless, I apperciate your pain, one of the greatest living jazz pianists and he's comes by England barely at all... If he did, I'd save up. But it's probably never going to happen unless I move to Japan or stumble upon a private jet.
Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 8:30pm
Jazz Pianist wrote:
Abraxas wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
triceratopsoil wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
I'm a bit surprised that no-one has voted for Thelonius Monk.
He was my #2
He wouldn't have been in my top 5!!! (I gave mine in my first post on the thread)
but he's generally universally recognized as a genius (although more so in the songwriting dept proper, rather than piano proficiency or virtuosity itself), which is why I'm a little amazed at no-one voting for him...
But at Thelo's defence, the competition he's facing is rather tough.
I'm not a musician, but I think that if JMA was more crowded with "old-jazz" school fans, Monk would be an obvious choice.
Besides his compositions, he had a highly original and complex approach to the piano.
This is true. Thelonious's clanky chordal style has never been successfully emulated. I remember trying one of his transcribed solos and gave up halfway through because it really wasn't comfortable to play. Not technically, just didn't feel right!
Haha, that was a daring task, my friend.
Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 9:16pm
i Voted Chick
------------- "If you're trying to be hip, be hip." - Miles Davis
Posted By: Jazz Pianist
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2011 at 7:17am
Abraxas wrote:
Jazz Pianist wrote:
Abraxas wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
triceratopsoil wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
I'm a bit surprised that no-one has voted for Thelonius Monk.
He was my #2
He wouldn't have been in my top 5!!! (I gave mine in my first post on the thread)
but he's generally universally recognized as a genius (although more so in the songwriting dept proper, rather than piano proficiency or virtuosity itself), which is why I'm a little amazed at no-one voting for him...
But at Thelo's defence, the competition he's facing is rather tough.
I'm not a musician, but I think that if JMA was more crowded with "old-jazz" school fans, Monk would be an obvious choice.
Besides his compositions, he had a highly original and complex approach to the piano.
This is true. Thelonious's clanky chordal style has never been successfully emulated. I remember trying one of his transcribed solos and gave up halfway through because it really wasn't comfortable to play. Not technically, just didn't feel right!
Haha, that was a daring task, my friend.
Indeed! Some of the chords you take a look at and think "REALLY??????"
Yep, the man was truly unique.
Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 5:56pm
Monk is in my top five Jazz musicians and I would have him 2nd myself. Playing him right now and for my money one of the best Jazz composers ,full stop............ How many versions of "Round Midnight" and "Straight No Chaser" are out there? My favourite is "Well You Needn't" and I know that he is Bop but he laid the foundation for Avante with his structures. I hear his ghost often in that genre. I do not know what all those Jazz experts say but I have been listening to those Riverside albums for nearly 20 years now. Bloody love his music.
Somebody always says this in these Polls but you missed one
"a,hum...ahhh" what about Andrew Hill
I am a fan
------------- Matt
Posted By: Jazz Pianist
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 7:40pm
Can't say I've ever heard Andrew Hill, I will do my research
And I agree with you on Thelonious, helped shape modern music!
Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 8:00pm
Jazz Pianist wrote:
Can't say I've ever heard Andrew Hill, I will do my research
And I agree with you on Thelonious, helped shape modern music!
Been having a Monk-athon today Andrew Hill is great. Everybody raves about "Point of Depature" but "Blackfire" is my fave. Juat a quartet with Joe Henderson, Richard Davis, bass and Roy Haynes, drums. First album he did under his own name. Beautiful. He is a spacer and placer with his technique and slight discordant touch as he usually misses a note or two with his style which makes him unique in his own way. Did not sell much at all in his early Blue Note days but these days. I know this might be the most used quote but he was ahead of his time and he played Jazz his style. We have him under Post Bop but you could almost put him in Avante as well. Best description I suppose is Andrew Hill is Andrew Hill.
------------- Matt
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 9:51pm
I agree, Andrew Hill is right between AG and Post Bop.feel free to change any of his album tags that are wrong.
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 3:45am
Matt wrote:
Jazz Pianist wrote:
Can't say I've ever heard Andrew Hill, I will do my research
And I agree with you on Thelonious, helped shape modern music!
Been having a Monk-athon today Andrew Hill is great. Everybody raves about "Point of Depature" but "Blackfire" is my fave. Juat a quartet with Joe Henderson, Richard Davis, bass and Roy Haynes, drums. First album he did under his own name. Beautiful. He is a spacer and placer with his technique and slight discordant touch as he usually misses a note or two with his style which makes him unique in his own way. Did not sell much at all in his early Blue Note days but these days. I know this might be the most used quote but he was ahead of his time and he played Jazz his style. We have him under Post Bop but you could almost put him in Avante as well. Best description I suppose is Andrew Hill is Andrew Hill.
I'm going to get shot for this, but AH is simply not my type of jazz (btw, his JMA discography is wayayay incomplete >> most of his later 70's albums are missing)...
just too old-school for me... even in the late 60's and early 80's, he sounded like the 50's.... Unlike most jazzmen (such as Bon Byrd), he never tried to update himself (to the point where I'm wondering why he's classified as "postbop" or even avant-garde >> sounds like an anti-nommer to me)... BTW I must say I have never heard his 70's albums I speak of above >> this will be solved in two weeks' time (got them reserved from the library system, but unfortunately they don't have Blue Black)
Soooooo, I'm basing my (uneducated) opinion on an albums like Dance With Death, which didn't strike me as really modern-sounding for its year of release (1980)
BTW, one question: what happened to him between 69 & 74?? no albums
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Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 11:53am
^ Check this, and tell us what you think of it:
I think this is definitely post bop, slightly heading toward avant.
And if you want some avant:
I think you should really check his 60s albums, it's all pretty much quality jazz and belonging to either post bop or avant like Matt said.
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 1:05pm
OK, I've heard fairly recently (like the last 8 months or so):
Point Of Departure
Smokestack
Grassroot
Passing Ships
Andrew!!!
And later:
Dance With Death
I remember hearing over the last few years (so my memories are a bit fainter):
Compulsion!!!
Judgment!
Black Fire.
And to be honest, haven't heard anything more (or even close to) postbop as Coltrane or Mingus, Tyner, early Hancock or AG as Ayler, Coleman, later Trane, Shepp, Dolphy and Sun Ra
AAMOF, I don't find these AH albums more postbop than most early 60's Don Byrd albums (like Cat Walk, New perspective, In flight or Free Form... and they (JMA collabs) qualify him as hardbop
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Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 6:19pm
^from those Byrd albums, I've heard Free Form and New Perspective, and the former (pun not intended) is definitely Hard Bop, with the exception of the title track which is a bit more adventurous. New Perspective, not sure, I don't think it's really post bop, but it's a more ingenious style of hard bop.
If you don't remember Compulsion!!, I've posted a tube above, you really can't say that's not avant, or something that Byrd ever did.
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 7:39pm
Abraxas wrote:
^from those Byrd albums, I've heard Free Form and New Perspective, and the former (pun not intended) is definitely Hard Bop, with the exception of the title track which is a bit more adventurous. New Perspective, not sure, I don't think it's really post bop, but it's a more ingenious style of hard bop.
If you don't remember Compulsion!!, I've posted a tube above, you really can't say that's not avant, or something that Byrd ever did.
Oooooops, sorry! Compulsion!!! is indeed much more adventurous, it can be avant-garde. indeed
don't get me wrong here: I can hear Dolphy's "out there"playing in Point Of Departure, but he's tyhe only one , the others playing fairly standard 50's jazz
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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 11:06pm
^ ..."standard 50s jazz" is a confusing term as the 50s were extremely diverse. You had the rise of Cool and Hard Bop while some still played Bop and even Swing. The Dixieland revival kicked in big time and Afro-Cuban was at its most popular. Bossa Nova was a big hit and some people were able to keep up big swing bands while others started the whole Progressive Big Band idea. Jump blues was also very popular and about to become much more popular as it lead to rock n roll and RnB.
You would have to go back about a decade or two before you would find jazz in a style that enough people were playing that you could call it a "standard" style for that time.. The Swing era or earlier actually.
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2011 at 2:16am
js wrote:
^ ..."standard 50s jazz" is a confusing term as the 50s were extremely diverse. You had the rise of Cool and Hard Bop while some still played Bop and even Swing. The Dixieland revival kicked in big time and Afro-Cuban was at its most popular. Bossa Nova was a big hit and some people were able to keep up big swing bands while others started the whole Progressive Big Band idea. Jump blues was also very popular and about to become much more popular as it lead to rock n roll and RnB.
You would have to go back about a decade or two before you would find jazz in a style that enough people were playing that you could call it a "standard" style for that time.. The Swing era or earlier actually.
Oh yeah, I know I'm being a bit reductive with that standard 50's jazz... I don't mean to be reductive or negative about it either,
I probably lack the sufficient words to find a better description, but it's clear that in my time-wrapped mind, I do include inside that description bossa nova and the stuff that my father was listening, from Duke to Satchmo & Ella to Illinois Jacket to Lionel Hampton and Basie etc... Generally melodic stuff (even if Bird Parker was too much for my parents and many of the public >>> not what his players were doing, but what Parker played himself)
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Posted By: Jazz Pianist
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2011 at 8:37am
Argh the term "avant-garde" is so overused... If anything in Compulsion Andrew Hill is only breaking down personal boundries. He is expressing him self freely without the ties of harmonic law
Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2011 at 12:00pm
Jazz Pianist wrote:
Argh the term "avant-garde" is so overused... If anything in Compulsion Andrew Hill is only breaking down personal boundries. He is expressing him self freely without the ties of harmonic law
Well then, 'free jazz' sounds better for you?
Posted By: Jazz Pianist
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2011 at 12:19pm
Abraxas wrote:
Jazz Pianist wrote:
Argh the term "avant-garde" is so overused... If anything in Compulsion Andrew Hill is only breaking down personal boundries. He is expressing him self freely without the ties of harmonic law
Well then, 'free jazz' sounds better for you?
Yeah man
Man I sounded really pedantic... I do apologise
Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2011 at 1:36pm
Jazz Pianist wrote:
Abraxas wrote:
Jazz Pianist wrote:
Argh the term "avant-garde" is so overused... If anything in Compulsion Andrew Hill is only breaking down personal boundries. He is expressing him self freely without the ties of harmonic law
Well then, 'free jazz' sounds better for you?
Yeah man
Man I sounded really pedantic... I do apologise
Haha, no prob. I actually would have said free jazz, but since free jazz is inside Avant in here...
Posted By: Jazz Pianist
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2011 at 1:55pm
Abraxas wrote:
Jazz Pianist wrote:
Abraxas wrote:
Jazz Pianist wrote:
Argh the term "avant-garde" is so overused... If anything in Compulsion Andrew Hill is only breaking down personal boundries. He is expressing him self freely without the ties of harmonic law
Well then, 'free jazz' sounds better for you?
Yeah man
Man I sounded really pedantic... I do apologise
Haha, no prob. I actually would have said free jazz, but since free jazz is inside Avant in here...
Shall be really out there and do away with all this genre nonsense?
Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2011 at 4:24pm
Abraxas wrote:
^ Check this, and tell us what you think of it:
I think this is definitely post bop, slightly heading toward avant.
And if you want some avant:
I think you should really check his 60s albums, it's all pretty much quality jazz and belonging to either post bop or avant like Matt said.
Meant to get back yesterday Pablo but ran out of time, "Compulsion" is awesome. I call it his personally his percussion album. Not only does he have the extra 2 in the band but listen to how he plays that piano throughout. Percussion, he slams into those piano keys His nonet album is great and you all know how fussy I can be with big bands "Passing Ships", Not that mad on "Lift Every Voice" though. The one I am playing is great too "Pax". Alfred Lion from Blue Note loved him and just kept doing session after session with him. They had that much in the can and could not release it all without saturation. It is not like his albums were very big sellers either. Bobby Hutcherson's "Dialogue" he is all over as well and I highly recommend it. I like his later ones too. "Dusk" , "Time Lines"........."Blue Black" from the mid seventies ...........yeah I reckon he was cool.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2011 at 2:37am
Matt wrote:
Meant to get back yesterday Pablo but ran out of time, "Compulsion" is awesome. I call it his personally his percussion album. Not only does he have the extra 2 in the band but listen to how he plays that piano throughout. Percussion, he slams into those piano keys His nonet album is great and you all know how fussy I can be with big bands "Passing Ships", Not that mad on "Lift Every Voice" though. The one I am playing is great too "Pax". Alfred Lion from Blue Note loved him and just kept doing session after session with him. They had that much in the can and could not release it all without saturation. It is not like his albums were very big sellers either. Bobby Hutcherson's "Dialogue" he is all over as well and I highly recommend it. I like his later ones too. "Dusk" , "Time Lines"........."Blue Black" from the mid seventies ...........yeah I reckon he was cool.
I just reviewed Compulsion and most likely i will do the same for most of AH's albums in the next weeks to come...
I'm glad someone entered his later-70's albums >> it means that at least someone is reading my drivel on this forum
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2011 at 8:21am
Went for Bill Evans as I'm currently obsessed with block chords - though Keith was close behind
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Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2011 at 3:33pm
dreadpirateroberts wrote:
Went for Bill Evans as I'm currently obsessed with block chords - though Keith was close behind
Check Red Garland! He's an early "pioneer" of the block chord.
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2011 at 9:36pm
Abraxas wrote:
dreadpirateroberts wrote:
Went for Bill Evans as I'm currently obsessed with block chords - though Keith was close behind
Check Red Garland! He's an early "pioneer" of the block chord.
Awesome! Thank you, Abraxas. I certainly will - any particular album(s)?
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Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2011 at 9:54pm
dreadpirateroberts wrote:
Abraxas wrote:
dreadpirateroberts wrote:
Went for Bill Evans as I'm currently obsessed with block chords - though Keith was close behind
Check Red Garland! He's an early "pioneer" of the block chord.
Awesome! Thank you, Abraxas. I certainly will - any particular album(s)?
Well, you can check his albums with Miles Davis, the "First Great Quintet" where John Coltrane is also member. Albums like Round About Midnight, or the Workin'/Cookin/etc albums.
Garland's band is also pretty great, albums like 'Dig It' and 'A Garland of Red'.
Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2011 at 12:55am
Sean Trane wrote:
Matt wrote:
Meant to get back yesterday Pablo but ran out of time, "Compulsion" is awesome. I call it his personally his percussion album. Not only does he have the extra 2 in the band but listen to how he plays that piano throughout. Percussion, he slams into those piano keys His nonet album is great and you all know how fussy I can be with big bands "Passing Ships", Not that mad on "Lift Every Voice" though. The one I am playing is great too "Pax". Alfred Lion from Blue Note loved him and just kept doing session after session with him. They had that much in the can and could not release it all without saturation. It is not like his albums were very big sellers either. Bobby Hutcherson's "Dialogue" he is all over as well and I highly recommend it. I like his later ones too. "Dusk" , "Time Lines"........."Blue Black" from the mid seventies ...........yeah I reckon he was cool.
I just reviewed Compulsion and most likely i will do the same for most of AH's albums in the next weeks to come...
I'm glad someone entered his later-70's albums >> it means that at least someone is reading my drivel on this forum
No worries Sean.There are plenty there to review.
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2011 at 9:35am
Abraxas wrote:
dreadpirateroberts wrote:
Abraxas wrote:
dreadpirateroberts wrote:
Went for Bill Evans as I'm currently obsessed with block chords - though Keith was close behind
Check Red Garland! He's an early "pioneer" of the block chord.
Awesome! Thank you, Abraxas. I certainly will - any particular album(s)?
Well, you can check his albums with Miles Davis, the "First Great Quintet" where John Coltrane is also member. Albums like Round About Midnight, or the Workin'/Cookin/etc albums.
Garland's band is also pretty great, albums like 'Dig It' and 'A Garland of Red'.
Awesome, thank you! Will get on to these - though it just goes to show how long it's been since I played 'Round Midnight' from Davis
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Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2011 at 4:38pm
^no prob, hope you enjoy Red Garland's fab playing.
Posted By: Noak2
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2011 at 6:22pm
Cecil Taylor!
Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2011 at 9:18am
Finally picked up an LP by Keith Jarrett yesterday and I'm curious as to what I will hear when I get time to listen to it. I don't know much about the guy but I expect to be amazed.
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2011 at 9:43am
Chicapah wrote:
Finally picked up an LP by Keith Jarrett yesterday and I'm curious as to what I will hear when I get time to listen to it. I don't know much about the guy but I expect to be amazed.
If it was the Koln Concert, I hope you are, that album stuns me. Haven't hear enough of his other stuff - keen to get 'expectations' and see what it's like.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2011 at 3:21am
dreadpirateroberts wrote:
Chicapah wrote:
Finally picked up an LP by Keith Jarrett yesterday and I'm curious as to what I will hear when I get time to listen to it. I don't know much about the guy but I expect to be amazed.
If it was the Koln Concert, I hope you are, that album stuns me. Haven't hear enough of his other stuff - keen to get 'expectations' and see what it's like.
Yeah, I'd say that Koln is really the tops of Jarrett's discography...
His series of albums with DeJohnette are nice as well , but don't compare to Koln...
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Michael garrick and John Taylor.
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Posted By: stuccohomes
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2011 at 5:32pm
For me it begins and ends with Keith Jarrett, but in between is up for grabs.
Posted By: Moshkito
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2011 at 4:15pm
Sean Trane wrote:
Yeah, I'd say that Koln is really the tops of Jarrett's discography...
His series of albums with DeJohnette are nice as well , but don't compare to Koln...
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I have more than one of his works, and Koln is definitly tops in any scale ... the sheer free form and playing ability in it, is insane and can not be taught ... you have to feel it, and not be entraped being stuck on scales and modifications of scales in order to get a result, and there are not a whole lot of piano players that are that free in order to be able to create something like this.
For my tastes, most of the piano players in the list are very nice, but too many of them are way too conventional and tend to just do one thing, and you can not say that about Keith Jarrett, who does all kinds of different musics and I bet that if he did a fun stint with a rock band, he could show a few bands some real chops!
For example: You can go to NY or SF, and hear hundreds of excellent piano players in any bar doing some jazz, or light jazz. Sadly, when you see what they are playing, 2 hours later, it is still the same thing, sounds the same and has no livelihood of its own sometimes for you and I unless we have a few more drinks. And I will get bored, just like you will.
Many of them were very nice and super enjoyable ... but in the end, on the last cut, I still hear almost the same thing, and I have to tell you that I like to hear more ... that is not there!
Posted By: dionisio
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2011 at 4:20pm
I really cannot decide between monk and bud powell, but since bud had.. ZERO votes, i had to vote for him ! guys, zero votes?! he's the bird on the piano.. now im going to listen to bud powell the rest of the night to compensate the lack of votes (even that there is no sense at all in this decision, its quite a good excuse to listen to him moaning for hours while playing piano. and that, didnt sound right, bt who cares :D )
EDIT: Oh crap, and there is no cecil taylor in that poll.. thats also a big crime xP
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2011 at 3:50pm
I'm a Thelonius Monk fanboy.
Not so seriously, I once stole an album from his in a monastery when I was a felonious monk.
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2011 at 11:40pm
Been getting more into Thelonious Monk lately. That album with Coltrane that was released in 2005 is still one of my favorites from him.
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Posted By: HURBRET
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2012 at 11:18pm
Ahmad Jamal?
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2012 at 2:35am
HURBRET wrote:
Ahmad Jamal?
one of the rare jazzer that Miles never dissed or be dismissive of
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Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2012 at 9:59am
Keith Jarrett because of 'The Koln concert'
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Posted By: HURBRET
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2012 at 2:01pm
Sonny Clark and Barry Harris as well are two of the hardest swinging pianists I know of out there. But I guess McCoy Tyner's the best, really. And then there's Michel Petrucciani.