Lets get the controversy started: Onda Nueva
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Topic: Lets get the controversy started: Onda Nueva
Posted By: ProgressiveAttic
Subject: Lets get the controversy started: Onda Nueva
Date Posted: 23 May 2011 at 8:56pm
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Onda Nueva is a musical style developed in the 70s by Venezuelan composer Aldemaro Romero by blending traditional Venezuelan Joropo (a genre that features some of the earliest improvistion techniques known) with Jazz sensibilities... usually performed by a trio (piano, bass and drums), sometimes with the addition of a cuatro (typical Venezuelan instrument with four strings), harp, flute or with an orchestra (getting close to Third Stream at times). After Romero lots of ensembles, groups and artists have emerged defining themselves inside the "Onda Nueva" style (specially in Venezuela). Some examples: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbD0H6lEJeQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-iD3heHE6c" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JeIFJisOEw&feature=related" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-3tZb7-x6M&feature=related" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvuiajRqvaY&feature=related" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEyxQgfWSVE" rel="nofollow - This thread is for discussing about Onda Nueva, it isn't necessarily a proposal of including a new sub-genre.... (I think we should... IMO it is as unique as Bossa Nova)
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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 23 May 2011 at 9:08pm
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Sounds good to me. Onda Nueva probably won't get its own genre, but more than likely many of the groups could find a home in Latin Jazz. Let me know what groups you are proposing, preferably with some musical examples, and I will try to get them added to the site.
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Posted By: ProgressiveAttic
Date Posted: 23 May 2011 at 9:28pm
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First of all Aldemaro Romero.... he developed the style (all the samples I posted above are his compositions) . ------------- Michael's Sonic Kaleidoscope Mondays 5:00pm EST(re-runs Thursdays 3:00pm) @ Delicious Agony Progressive Rock Radio: http://www.deliciousagony.com |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 23 May 2011 at 9:38pm
| Cool, we should have him added over the next day or two. |
Posted By: ProgressiveAttic
Date Posted: 23 May 2011 at 9:47pm
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Some more technical aspects about the style (in its purest form): *Generally written in 5/8 or 6/8 time signatures *Jazz-Bossa harmonies *Venezuelan Waltz cadence and modulation *Joropo syncopation I don't think there are Venezuelan musicians out there that don't owe something to Aldemaro Romero (specially in the jazz scene - one of the biggest in south-america)
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Posted By: Freddie Freeloader
Date Posted: 24 May 2011 at 4:50pm
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Definately want to check this out more!
what would be the top five names in the genre to check out?
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Posted By: ProgressiveAttic
Date Posted: 24 May 2011 at 7:20pm
First of all, as I said before, Aldemaro Romero: but be careful, you may stumble upon some 100% Venezuelan folk (some of it may not be your kind of thing). For jazzier things: *Gonzalo Teppa (a truly gifted bass player... I've seen him live about 4 times and he still impresses me) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_saXbvb4N6I" rel="nofollow - *Huascar Barradas (the archetypal Venezuelan flutist) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX-t2yIm91w" rel="nofollow - *Cesar Orozco (quite a new name in the scene but really talented pianist + he surrounds himself with great musicians) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Xo5ZNYt8yc&feature=related" rel="nofollow - If you like fusion, I'd recommend (this is more of a hybrid): *Vytas Brenner (Jayeche) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvrALXgmT_Q" rel="nofollow - *Frank Quintero y los Balzeaguaos (Frank Quintero actually started his career as backing vocalist for Aldemaro Romero... he plays drums in this one) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRz1Ne5KEdM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAYFDpnsmBg" rel="nofollow -
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