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Topic: Essential early jazz
Posted By: Vompatti
Subject: Essential early jazz
Date Posted: 23 May 2011 at 2:30pm
I went to a second hand record shop today and noticed how little I know about jazz before the bop era. So, which would be the essential artists and recordings to look into if I choose to expand my collection to the pre-50's stuff?

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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 23 May 2011 at 5:38pm
Some very essential artirts of pre-bop would be:
Fletcher Henderson
Louis Armstrong
Duke Ellington
Ben Webster
Coleman Hawkins

Beautiful music from an era that is never coming back, enjoy!


Posted By: js
Date Posted: 23 May 2011 at 5:44pm
Whoops, I forgot Lester Young, pure magic.


Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: 24 May 2011 at 2:50pm
Thanks, I will check those out.

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Posted By: funkyrhodes
Date Posted: 24 May 2011 at 6:25pm
In addition Jelly Roll Morten, Benny Goodman, Artie Shaw, and Count Basie also deserve a listen, along with many others


Posted By: triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 24 May 2011 at 7:18pm
Jelly Roll Morton is awesome

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 29 May 2011 at 1:58am
Originally posted by js js wrote:

Some very essential artirts of pre-bop would be:
Fletcher Henderson
Louis Armstrong
Duke Ellington
Ben Webster
Coleman Hawkins

Beautiful music from an era that is never coming back, enjoy!
 
 
This is a sensible list, but I'm thinking that Glen Miller and the Benny Goodman-Lionel Hampton-Charlie Christian connection should get a mention in your list.
 
I was often subjected to this kind of jazz when a kid , because my father had a bunch of albums of the times and even brought me to two concerts when I was 5 or 8 . I saw Roland Kirk and Lionel Hampton in clubs in Brussels
 
 
However, I find it difficult to listen to pre-50's jazz nowadays... it's just so dated.... really sounds like oldtimer's music.  
 
 
 
 
 
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 29 May 2011 at 8:01am
Glenn Miller is awesome, and essential indeed. 


Posted By: js
Date Posted: 29 May 2011 at 9:35am
^ I'd probably go with the more rockin Count Basie. I have a couple Basie reviews up on here about how some of his music pre-dated early rock and RnB.


Posted By: chuckyspell
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2011 at 12:59pm
Art Tatum!


Posted By: js
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2011 at 1:06pm
word


Posted By: Jazz Pianist
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2011 at 5:03pm
Don't forget Gershwin


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2011 at 7:15pm
No one's mentioned Stephane Grappelli yet...

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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2011 at 3:48am
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

No one's mentioned Stephane Grappelli yet...
 
That man lasted a long time, especially when you consider the partner guitarists that book end Grapelli's career, Django Reinhart and John  Etheridge.


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2011 at 3:58am
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

No one's mentioned Stephane Grappelli yet...
 
That man lasted a long time, especially when you consider the partner guitarists that book end Grapelli's career, Django Reinhart and John  Etheridge.
 
Yes, Grapelli and Reinhardt are one of rare examples of Europeans being able to break the US jazz-hegemony before WWII.
 
 


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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2011 at 3:59am
How about naming some landmark albums of early jazz recordings (yes I know albums didn't exist until the invention of the LP around 1950) that should be in jazz fan's collection, e.g.
 
Bennie Goodman: Legendary Carnegie Hall Recordings 1938
 
and If these still exist,  the Robert Armstrong remastered series, issued by the BBC in the 80's - the Bix Beiderbeck  one comes to mind.
 
I'm trying to nail the more important /essential Jazz At The Philaharmonic recordings (I have Nat King Cole/Les Paul brilliantly jamming, pity about a less than perfect transcription) - which seem to have been made through most of the 40's. This is the problem listening to BBC Radio 3's Jazz Records Requests - forgetting to write down tunes/musicians that appeal for those brief moments on Saturday afternoons.



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