The "top albums" charts for genres
Printed From: JazzMusicArchives.com
Category: Site News, Newbies, Help and Improvements
Forum Name: Help us improve the site
Forum Description: Help us improve the forums, and the site as a whole
URL: http://www.JazzMusicArchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=424
Printed Date: 29 Apr 2024 at 7:04am
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 10.16 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: The "top albums" charts for genres
Posted By: SaltyJon
Subject: The "top albums" charts for genres
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 6:40pm
|
I'm curious...why does it seem that the charts only (seemingly) show albums with 4+ star ratings? I've been browsing genres, and for example in Swing, Lionel Hampton's Golden Vibes has been rated/reviewed yet doesn't show in the charts.
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow">  
|
Replies:
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 6:54pm
|
I think the chart you are looking at is called "Top albums" in each genre. That's basically the top rated albums in each genre. It wasn't anything I designed or asked for, it just came with the site.
|
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 6:57pm
|
I'm not exactly sure how it works, but it seems to take in account the ratings for the whole site when determining what is "top". There was a time when the 'top' album in Pop Jazz was 2.5
|
Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 7:13pm
| Jon, if I'm not mistaken, the same system is used for PA's Top Genre albums. It's about the ratings. (although I may have misunderstood what you were saying) |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 7:14pm
|
Yeah, I'm referring to the genre charts. I'm just curious why some of them aren't more populated when there are more album ratings or reviews which could be displayed. Weird that it considers ratings for the whole site since some genres could get shunted and then not have anything in the charts, if I'm understanding your response right. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow">
|
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 7:16pm
|
Pablo, look here at the Swing charts: http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/swing%28subgenre%29.aspx" rel="nofollow - http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/swing%28subgenre%29.aspx You see that there are two albums in the genre's chart, yet another album with a rating and review which doesn't show there. That's what's confusing me, since generally the top album charts show 12 albums (right?). ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow">
|
Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 7:19pm
Oh, know I understand. But that's because the Hampton album is below the 4 stars (or whatever is the average established). But you probably already figured that out, and I might not be answering your doubt hehe.
|
SaltyJon wrote:Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 7:26pm
Well originally I thought it was only albums with 4+ star ratings make it to charts for whatever reason, but then I checked out the pop jazz charts and there's an album there with something like a 3.78 or so. I'd just call myself generally confused at this point. 
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow">
|
Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 7:36pm
| mmm. It is certainly a mystery. A top album is 3.5 also in the section of DJ/Hip Hop now. |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 7:38pm
Maybe the charts just don't like John's ratings sometimes. 
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow">
|
Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 8:22pm
Well now that you mention it, I did review/rate Where Have I Known You Before with 5 stars, but I never saw it in the charts.
|
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 8:25pm
I'm sure thats it  But seriously folks, I don't totally understand it either, but statistics and such are always interesting to me so I too have wondered how this works. My guess is that it takes in consideration the whole site ratings in their configurations. For a long time there were, or still are, albums in Progressive Big Band and Exotica that were 4 stars that did not show ... of course I was the one that rated them ...hmmm
 |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 8:27pm
Its pretty obvious that number of ratings are also part of the configuration, for instance and album with 5 ratings and an average of 4.90 might rate higher than an album with one rating of 5.00.
|
Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 8:36pm
Yes, I know that. But at the very beginning, when there were very few ratings, that album still didn't get in the charts.
|
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 8:36pm
|
Well whatever the reasoning behind it, I hope the charts can get more filled up with time. I've been using individual artists to find new things to listen to, but I know a lot of people like to start with the top albums and work from there.
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow">
|
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 10:00pm
|
The charts in the older jazz genres will fill up when we get more fans of older jazz genres here. Personally I would love to see knowledgeable reviews of Coleman Hawkins and Fletcher Henderson on the front page. I've tried advertising at sites where jazz musicians look for playing opportunities, and I have seen some people join the site, but no reviews yet. If you guys know here to advertise for jazz fans, go for it.
|