Impressionism Appreciation Thread
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Topic: Impressionism Appreciation Thread
Posted By: BlueNote
Subject: Impressionism Appreciation Thread
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2012 at 7:39am
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This movement has clearly influenced jazz a lot, but apart from the big two - Debussy and Ravel - there are not many known composers of this period. So if you want to share your favourite pieces, promote your favourite composer or just talk about something related to this, you are welcome. I'll start with posting the flagship of I. and maybe even the whole modern classical music. The first notes (originally played on flute) are thought to be the first wink of 20th century in music. ------------- We lay on our backs, looking at the ceiling and wondering what God had wrought when He made life so sad. - Jean-Louis Lebris de Kerouac |
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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2012 at 9:16am
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I like both, but Ravel more of the two. I was trying to think of pieces by other composers that were impressionistic, possibly Holst's "Venus" from "The Planets", nice wordless vocals on that one. I also like Debussy's work with wordless vocals, I believe that is on "The Iberian Suite", its in my record collection somewhere, but sometimes it takes a while to remember or find things.
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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2012 at 10:26am
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Its also interesting to look at those jazz musicians with a strong impressionist influence in their music, Herbie Hancock, Bill Evans and Gil Evans all come to mind. When "Birth of the Cool" first came out, critics complained that it was not jazz and was more similar to Ravel. I have a book that has some of the old reviews.
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Posted By: BlueNote
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2012 at 5:52pm
| Yes, you are right. I've even heard Evans used a Debussy's prelude in the beginning in So What. The connection is very clear. |
Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2012 at 8:05pm
They also called it pompous, bomastic and pretentious. oh wait...
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js wrote:Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2012 at 5:41pm
| Satie was also impressionist. In fact, one could say all of Debussy's innovations actually came from Satie. Scriabin is another well-known one. |
Posted By: BlueNote
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2012 at 10:22am
Scriabin an impressionist? 
------------- We lay on our backs, looking at the ceiling and wondering what God had wrought when He made life so sad. - Jean-Louis Lebris de Kerouac |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2012 at 11:01am
Or so Wikipedia says  . His works are very "color-based," and he exhibits some unusual harmonies for the time. Of course, Satie was the only one who totally adhered to the philosophy of impressionism. While the others painted with colors, he obscured the lines (lack of time signature and barlines, obscuring of tonality, atonality, etc.). He was also the only one of any of the impressionist composers to admit the influence of the impressionist painters on him. |
Posted By: BlueNote
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2012 at 12:12pm
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Interesting, I've never looked at him like this. Thanks.
------------- We lay on our backs, looking at the ceiling and wondering what God had wrought when He made life so sad. - Jean-Louis Lebris de Kerouac |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2012 at 5:27pm
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Sure thing. I've always been very interested in Impressionist composers, their predecessors and successors. To breathe some fire back into this thread, a piece by Satie that was a huge influence on Debussy and Ravel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_E2j53ijag A piece by a little known American impressionist, Charles Tomlinson Griffes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_z1ov7wJLw And a piece by Messiaen, who can be seen as an heir to the Impressionist desk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0__tgrjTkc |