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Topic: 20th Century Composers
Posted By: js
Subject: 20th Century Composers
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2012 at 8:12pm
Since the 1920s or earlier there has been an ongoing cross exchange between modern composers and jazz artists.

Although many of my favorite works are more avant-garde, my favorite composer overall is Stravinsky, especially for his later period French/American neo-classical pieces.



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Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2012 at 9:37pm

I was not familiar with all of these composers. However, I think that this vote is very significant.
I checked "The Rite of Spring" of Stravinsky before, too. It was splendid. And I like avant-garde works equally.

Steve Reich and Terry Riley were entrances of those music for me.
By the way, there was a musician called "Toru Takemitsu in Japan.

Please try it when people are interested in it.



Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2012 at 9:44pm
Alike Kazu, I'm not familiar with all of these neither I know much beyond the classic pieces of some of these.

But Steve Reich and Terry Riley are indeed faves of mine, my entry to minimalistic music and oh man, it's so good.

However, I'll give my vote to Satie if only for his Gymnopedies that are just.... heaven-made.


Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2012 at 9:49pm
Yes. Gymnopedies. I intended to say it, too. It is solemn with beauty definitely.


Posted By: js
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2012 at 10:02pm
Originally posted by Kazuhiro Kazuhiro wrote:

I was not familiar with all of these composers. However, I think that this vote is very significant.
I checked "The Rite of Spring" of Stravinsky before, too. It was splendid. And I like avant-garde works equally.

Steve Reich and Terry Riley were entrances of those music for me.
By the way, there was a musician called "Toru Takemitsu in Japan.

Please try it when people are interested in it.


I have at least one record by Takemitsu, maybe two. Its easy for records to get lost around here. Ermm
I still can't find my copy of Ice T "Power"  Disapprove


Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2012 at 10:14pm
I checked "Original Gangster" in those days. But, it was De La Soul to have listened willingly.LOL


Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2012 at 1:10pm
Carl Orff because of Carmina Burana
I went through a P.Glass period but I barely listen to him now, otherwise I am not a fan of 20th century music



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Posted By: Abraxas
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2012 at 2:44pm
Originally posted by idlero idlero wrote:

Carl Orff because of Carmina Burana
I went through a P.Glass period but I barely listen to him now, otherwise I am not a fan of 20th century music


Confused Haha.


Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2012 at 1:57am
Originally posted by Abraxas Abraxas wrote:

Originally posted by idlero idlero wrote:

Carl Orff because of Carmina Burana
I went through a P.Glass period but I barely listen to him now, otherwise I am not a fan of 20th century music


Confused Haha.

meaning 20th century classical music 


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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2012 at 12:40am
Debussy for me, as I'm a sucker for the Impressionists. If he'd been in the list (wrong century perhaps) I'd also have considered the big Rach.


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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2012 at 12:47am
I like Debussy too, but I like Ravel a little better in that category. 
Ever listen to Tomita's versions of that era in music?


Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2012 at 10:13am
Unfortunately I'm only familiar with 4 or 5 of these composers' works....

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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2012 at 6:42am
Originally posted by js js wrote:

I like Debussy too, but I like Ravel a little better in that category. 
Ever listen to Tomita's versions of that era in music?


No, but I just looked into it now, read up a bit on the 'Snowflakes Are Dancing' album and heard a few tracks, it sounds fantastic, familiar yet new etc - really enjoying it, thanks John

A famous one




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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2012 at 6:42am
^ and I love Ravel too, forgot to mention him there

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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2012 at 6:47am
Some like Tomita, some don't, to me its similar to 50s-60s exotica, kind of cheesy but in a good way. 
My favorite is his album "The Bermuda Triangle", mostly the music of Prokofiev, lots of the old Mellotron on that one.


Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2012 at 2:36pm
Tomita is nice , I like 'Snowflakes are dancing' and 'Bermuda...'
Ravel I like only the 'Bolero', Deussy I don't like, Satie's 'Gymnopedies...' are OK and have some nice transcriptions in jazz(Jacques Loussier), Bartok I can listen to some of his work


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I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ...
Ken Burns


Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2012 at 7:11pm
Steve Reich

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2012 at 4:29am
Had to go for Debussy.  

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Posted By: idlero
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2012 at 7:08am
In painting, impressionists are my favorites, in music on the contrary.I find Debussy one of the most boring composers.

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I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ...
Ken Burns


Posted By: HURBRET
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2012 at 11:55am
Went with Ravel because I occasionally find Debussy a bit too sappy, but It's really hard to choose because there are so many different styles represented in this poll. Has anyone heard of Nikolai Kapustin? He's a heavily jazz influenced composer, and as far as I know he's still composing.


Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2012 at 12:29pm
^ cool, trhanks for the introduction, Hurbret!




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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2012 at 12:59pm
Yeah, thats nice music and Kapastin will make a nice entry into our 3rd Stream genre. My favorite 3rd Stream composer is William Grant Stills.


Posted By: BlueNote
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2012 at 5:38am
Originally posted by idlero idlero wrote:

In painting, impressionists are my favorites, in music on the contrary.I find Debussy one of the most boring composers.


Have you heard Suite Bergamasque?




Posted By: BlueNote
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2012 at 5:39am
(but I'd say you have to give him lots of time and listens, I used to dislike him either)


Posted By: triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2012 at 9:57pm
Stravinsky is, like, the man, man

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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2012 at 1:21pm
Originally posted by js js wrote:

Originally posted by Kazuhiro Kazuhiro wrote:

I was not familiar with all of these composers. However, I think that this vote is very significant.
I checked "The Rite of Spring" of Stravinsky before, too. It was splendid. And I like avant-garde works equally.

Steve Reich and Terry Riley were entrances of those music for me.
By the way, there was a musician called "Toru Takemitsu in Japan.

Please try it when people are interested in it.


I have at least one record by Takemitsu, maybe two. Its easy for records to get lost around here. Ermm
I still can't find my copy of Ice T "Power"  Disapprove


I have an album Takemitsu guitar stuff. Good going-to-sleep music, if you like having weird, twisted dreams. Wink

I must say, Messiaen is probably my favorite composer of all time, let alone 20th century. Satie would be my second choice. After that, it gets pretty close.


Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2012 at 1:35pm
Though, I do find this list a bit lacking. Schoenberg? Berg? Webern? Mahler? Strauss? Cowell? Partch? Young? Feldman? Penderecki? Part? Carter? Shostakovich? Khachaturian? etc. etc. etc.



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