Blindfold Test!
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Topic: Blindfold Test!
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Subject: Blindfold Test!
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 11:54am
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With thanks to Downbeat, here's a Blindfold Test for fun! Just in case, for anyone who hasn't heard of it; the Downbeat Blindfold Test pitted popular Jazz musicians against songs of the day, where they had to guess the composer and players without being told a thing or seeing the LP sleeve etc. (Here's http://www.downbeat.com/default.asp?sect=stories&subsect=story_detail&sid=814" rel="nofollow - Coltrane's ) So I'll do the same for us - your job is to guess similar things, some of which are easier I hope. Below I've put up a youtube clip where I've removed song info. The only thing that comes up ought to be a silly picture. About one minute of a song will stream. Points Awarded for Guessing any of all of the following: Leader/Soloist 4 Year 3 Decade 2 Label 1 (Bonus Points may be offered for Song/Album 5) As I said earlier, I'll only upload around a minute or so of each song, so as not to devour my usage this month and as to how often I'll manage to do this, well, let's see if anyone enjoys it first! ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 11:56am
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Here's the first - an easy one to start! (A second video is below it) and number two ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 11:59am
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OK, first video: piano - Bill Evans? sax - Phil woods or Charlie Mariano?
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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 12:04pm
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That second one is tough, it doesn't sound like Quincey Jones Gil Evans or Don Ellis, maybe its Thad Jones or maybe real early Don Ellis. the sax solo towards the end of the clip was someone who plays a lot like Coltrane.
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 12:07pm
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Close! I think there's some similarity with Bill and the piano player in video 1. Both 'Cool' players for sure. I don't know Phil Woods very well, but I suspect if he's like Charlie then then both are like the sax player in video 1. Any thoughts on the other categories? And should I offer hints? I feel guilty just knowing the answer  ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 12:08pm
I'd better go check the sax player! But you're right about the leader - it's definitely one of the names you mention at the top.  ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
js wrote:Posted By: js
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 12:17pm
Amad Jamal and Lee Konitz ?
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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 12:18pm
Its Don Ellis
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 12:23pm
Nope, but the sax player was definitely influenced by Konitz ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 12:25pm
 5 points! (extra point for the first winner!)Don Ellis is the leader on video two! ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 12:29pm
| ^ I could hear it in the strings (quartal harmonies) but its not one of his flashiest arrangements, which album is it from? |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 12:31pm
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Just one more before I stop for this round! ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 12:33pm
Dammit!!! I should have got this the first time, its Brubeck and Desmond, that seems so obvious now.
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 12:35pm
Cool - picked it from the strings! I'd have NO chance if I had to guess these. 'Soaring' from 73 - 'Invincible' is the song. It's not that well known I think, or at least, not that particular song from Soaring anyway. I'm trying to find songs that aren't too well known, but might still hint at the artist/leader. It's tough actually, I'm not sure I've got the balance between little known song/recognizable style yet. ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 12:35pm
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1.2 is Freddie Hubbard on trumpet? wild guess - Cedar Walton on piano?
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 12:37pm
Hahaha! I was worried it would be too easy if I choose some of the group's 'bigger' pieces, but this one comes from an album I'll leave unnamed for a little longer... ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 12:48pm
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Grrr, youtube is very helpfully recognising the songs and trying to name them for me, in terms of acknowledging the source! For 1.2 - close on on one, but not so close on the other ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 1:00pm
| 1.2 - Miles and Herbie ? |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 1:02pm
 4 points!Miles is the leader, but if the piano player was still alive, he'd be 9 years older than Herbie.. Album names and songs for two of the videos are still open if anyone wants to guess. I'm gonna duck away and check back in a little while. Food beckons hahaha ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 1:05pm
| ^ Tommy Flanagan or Wynton Kelly ? |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2012 at 12:08am
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Wynton Kelly! Will upload a couple of new ones later on - for now I'll wait and see if anyone can deduce an album/song etc ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2012 at 7:38am
| Thats an interesting Miles cut, sounds like hippie music or bongo beatnik music actually, the sort of thing Miles would often avoid. Who is the drummer? |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2012 at 7:47am
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^ Jimym Cob - yeah, I wonder whether the section I've snipped, is actually a bit of a cover inside the main song, I should re-listen to the studio cut and find out. It's recorded not too longer after Sketches of Spain
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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2012 at 9:06am
| Interesting, I don't think the piano and drums are totally comfortable with that beat. |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2012 at 1:46am
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Round Two ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2012 at 1:54am
I wonder if it's because they're playing it faster? Here we go, a reveal: #1 is Dave Brubeck/Paul Desmond (from Jazz Impressions of Japan) 'Fujiyama' - 1964 - CBS #1.1 is Don Ellis (from Soaring) 'Invincible' -1973 - MPS Records #1.2 is Miles Davis (from More Music from the Legendary Carnegie Hall Concert) 'Teo' - CBS ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2012 at 2:05am
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2.1 ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2012 at 5:39am
| Round 2 is too easy, I won't answer and give someone else a chance, anything from that era is the soundtrack of my youth. I remember this song well, but I will have to think to get the correct album, but I think I remember the song title, the band is a cinch, I probably saw them play this song live. |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2012 at 6:49am
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I'd hoped this round would start easier - I'll save up a harder one for later though Would have loved to have seen them live! How about 2.1 - I tried to make it a little easier too ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2012 at 7:18am
| I like 2.1, its Ellington influenced AG, which usually means either Sun Ra or Mingus. I'll go with Mingus. |
Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2012 at 6:58pm
| Round 2 was convinced that it was certain that it was WR and Black Saint now. However, I forgot the name of the music. |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2012 at 10:12pm
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Excellent! Kazu 5 pointsand John should get a couple for the ground work he put in too. I'll leave this one open a little longer in case any one wants to take a stab at the Weather Report album/song. #2 is Weather Report ????????? ????? ???? ??? etc #2.1 is Charles Mingus (from The Black Saint...) 'Solo Dancer' - 1963 - Impulse! ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2012 at 10:19pm
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2012 at 10:24pm
Nice work, Kazu! 5 more!Perhaps one of the lesser known Weather Report songs, I don't often hear it mentioned in reviews but I like it a lot. Ok - round 3 opening soon! ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2012 at 10:48pm
Ashley, this thread are very interesting. However, please do not choose Chick Corea. If you extract a performance of Chick Corea, and the answer is "Akoustic Band", it is a trap for a respondent. 
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 06 Aug 2012 at 6:39am
All right, here's Round 3 - I've put a very easy one in there (but not Chick just yet, Kazu  ) Not sure about the difficulty of the other two - but here we go ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 06 Aug 2012 at 8:36am
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3 - Tyner and Jones? 3.1 - no idea 3.2 its a novelty song, an older style done with modern elements, I'm guessing Armstrong.
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2012 at 6:59am
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3 - Tyner definitely! (but with someone else) 3.1 - I'll give it a bit longer 3.2 - spot on Louis Armstrong (La vie en rose) recorded in 1950s perhaps? Not sure. I cut it before he sang on purpose. though I thought his trumpet would be nearly as distinctive. ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2012 at 7:56am
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Re 3 - you're right, I actually didn't think that was Jones, it was just a guess, I do recognize that drumming style, but I can't think of who it is just yet. Oh yeah, its DeJohnette?
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2012 at 6:00pm
^ Not a bad guess, it's certainly where my mind goes when I think of Tyner  Not Jack, but a fusion-hero to some degree
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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2012 at 8:06pm
| It sounds a bit like Tony Williams I guess, although I would expect him to be a little busier. |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2012 at 8:27pm
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A lesser hero perhaps than Williams ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2012 at 8:54pm
| It sounds kind of like Lenny White, but I don't think he played with Tyner. |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 3:10am
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Yeah, not Lenny but that's closer - this drummer did a bit of time with Weather Report
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 4:39am
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Round 4 - just two for r4 ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 10:17am
Mouzon?
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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 10:23am
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4 - Michael Brecker? 4.1 - Carlos or someone he influenced, I don't know his modern records so I don't know the LP name.
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2012 at 5:18am
Yeah!
4 - Not Michael, though he played with the drummer on this one a few times 4.1 - Definitely someone Carlos influenced, this one is from a late 70s release though ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2012 at 11:19pm
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All right - Round 5! In here is an easy one, one that is a bit harder, and one that should be tough. And some holdovers from previous rounds 3.1 is a Nu-Jazz released from 2012 (4 & 4.1 clues in previous post) ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2012 at 12:48am
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Round 5: Round 5.1: Round 5.2: |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2012 at 12:58am
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Ten points for Kazu! Nice indeed!!! I'll have to make em harder perhaps. A clue for 5.2 is coming soon ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2012 at 2:32am
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4.0 - Grover Washington 4.1 - Al Dimeola
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2012 at 10:59am
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Got him! 4.1 is indeed Al, appearing on Stomu Yamashta's (Go Live from Paris) - 'Man of Leo' - 1976 - Island 4 - a convoluted hint for this one, the drummer is Cobham and he's not the leader, nor is the sax player, but the leader and sax player did perform and record together a bit 5.2 - co-led by a pianist & tenor saxophonist ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2012 at 12:19pm
| 5.2 - the pianist is John Lewis |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2012 at 12:21pm
| 4.0 - I think I own this record, I recognize the chord progression. Is it Stanley Turrentine with Bob James? |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2012 at 6:50am
Pretty damn close - it's definitely Stanley, but the keys are by Johnny 'Hammond' Smith - and neither played on the original. (Henderson and Hancock played on that one).
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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2012 at 7:29am
| Toshiko Akiyoshi ? |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2012 at 7:46am
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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2012 at 9:04am
| I like that song, what's the name of it? |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2012 at 9:14am
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Cool! Here it is: Toshiko Akiyoshi-Lew Tabackin Big Band (Long Yellow Road) - 'Opus No. Zero' - 1975 - RCA Long Yellow Road is one of my favourite albums (in any jazz genre) - it's really fun in places and I especially like 'Children in the Temple Ground' and "Opus...' ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2012 at 7:36am
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All right - Round 6 - a few videos this time. We also have a couple of holdovers, clues further below: 3.1 is a Nu-Jazz release from 2012, a quartet in the UK 4 features Cobham on drums and he's not the leader, nor is the sax player the leader, but the leader and sax player did perform and record together a bit. This one's a CTI release. ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: js
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2012 at 7:57am
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6.3 - blocked 6.2 - "Milestones" 6.4 - Joe Farrell? 6 - a young Herbie Hancock? 6.1 - trumpeter influenced by Miles, but not Miles
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2012 at 8:09am
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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2012 at 8:49am
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6 - Bill Evans? 6.4 - Hubert Laws?
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2012 at 8:51am
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Too good, John! Will have to think of some more curve balls! The Laws one is a Coltrane cover and it's 'Minority' from 'Everybody Digs Bill Evans' which is probably my fav of his. Will put up full titles and info soon ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2012 at 9:21am
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Round 6.3 : Recorda Me - Joe Henderson
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2012 at 9:25am
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Kazu!!!! Yep, Joe's Recorda Me from 'Page One' 1963 ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2012 at 7:52am
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Round 7 or so; first vid blocked in US (EMI is grumpy indeed) but second shouldn't be. ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2012 at 8:55am
I already found an answer about Round 7. I will finally answer when people do not find the answer.
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Posted By: js
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2012 at 9:45am
| 7.1 George Benson from the "White Rabbit" album ? |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2012 at 11:02pm
^ yep, definitely is  'El Mar' the last trackAnd you'd know the one Kazu knows too, if it'd let you watch it ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |
Posted By: Kazuhiro
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2012 at 11:28pm
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7.0 Cantaloupe Island - Herbie Hancock .....Probably |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2012 at 7:34am
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Right on, Kazu! (One of Hubbard's solos at the start) Will do a few more soon ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/dreadpirateroberts%28member%29.aspx?reviews=all/" rel="nofollow - Reviews... |