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Is Choro music distinguished from Samba?
Because I was not so well versed in traditional music of Brazil.

I often listen to MPB and Bossa Nova and become comfortable.

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Originally posted by Kazuhiro Kazuhiro wrote:

Is Choro music distinguished from Samba?
Because I was not so well versed in traditional music of Brazil.

I often listen to MPB and Bossa Nova and become comfortable.


Yes, Kazuhiro... even though many samba composers did choro too.

Originally Choro was only instrumental, later some lyrics were added to choro.

To make things a bit confused there's also the sub-genre samba-choro, where the slow Choro pace is accelerated by the samba beat, like this one:



The original Choro song can be heard here (no lyrics):


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atkingani Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jul 2011 at 7:07pm
Originally posted by js js wrote:

I'll check all this out Guigo. Right now we probably put Samba records in Latin Jazz or possibly World Fusion if it is Samba mixed with other elements.

Great, John.

Anyway, having a small space for samba (and related rhythms) here in the General Music Discussions is attractive too. Wink


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Partido Alto is another subgenre of samba, coming from the deep favela backyards there where a whitie is allowed only with a kind of visa. Big smile

The African roots are so noticeable that in some parts they use basically Yoruba instruments while in other they use mainly Angola instruments.

Nelson Sargento, almost 90, is a survivor. Tereza Cristina is a new generation star.




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Matt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jul 2011 at 7:41pm
Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

Partido Alto is another subgenre of samba, coming from the deep favela backyards there where a whitie is allowed only with a kind of visa. Big smile

The African roots are so noticeable that in some parts they use basically Yoruba instruments while in other they use mainly Angola instruments.

Nelson Sargento, almost 90, is a survival. Tereza Cristina is a new generation star.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atkingani Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jul 2011 at 9:32pm
While many artists tended to make Bossa Nova more jazzy others searched a bridge between Bossa Nova and Samba, being João Bosco a good example.




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atkingani Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jul 2011 at 9:42pm
Samba-Canção is a mix between Samba & Bolero, created back in the 1940s but still with many followers today.

Nana Caymmi, the daughter of Dorival Caymmi, composed and recorded this cool samba-canção just a few years ago.




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote js Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jul 2011 at 10:05pm
Thanks a lot Guigo. We will sticky this thread, this will make an excellent reference tool.
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Originally posted by js js wrote:

Thanks a lot Guigo. We will sticky this thread, this will make an excellent reference tool.

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Samba de breque (break samba) is noticeable for its broken musical phrases and spoken segments. 

This the style of the wise street guys where the late Moreira da Silva reigned absolutely.




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Samba-rock is the style that made Jorge Ben Jor famous since the 1960s. He also has a bunch of clones and covers.


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Samba-dance was a rhythm created in the 70s aimed to the disco fever.




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atkingani Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jul 2011 at 4:38pm
However, the samba de gafieira was and still is a favorite style in the night-clubs and dancings (gafieiras).






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Samba and Carnival form a perfect pair in the city of Rio de Janeiro.

Carnival needs a King and a Queen and every year, 2 or 3 months before Carnival there's a contest to select the new king & queen. Usually, the king is a fat guy (like Bacchus) and the queen is a gorgeous young lady and both need to be warm and know how to dance samba.

Link below shows the last contest which happened in the end of 2010.

DISCLAIMER: Images were shown in the Brazilian TV with no problems. However, if you have any restriction to beautiful women wearing tiny bikinis, please do not click on the link. Smile



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atkingani Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jul 2011 at 9:36pm
Tropicalismo was a cultural and musical movement in the 1960s that was a kind of parallel with the psych wave that occured there in the Northern Hemisphere.

Although not restricted to a specific musical style, those composers and arrangers of Tropicalism revisited samba with a toatlly new vision, including synths and electric guitars amid big orchestrations.

Here Caetano Veloso and his iconic 1968 song.


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Back in the 1970s a new movement, Clube da Esquina, headed by Milton Nascimento mixed samba with prog-rock and Brasilian folk.

 
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Tropicalismo probably has a lot in common with what we call Exotica on this site.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atkingani Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jul 2011 at 9:47pm
Originally posted by js js wrote:

Tropicalismo probably has a lot in common with what we call Exotica on this site.

Quite sure, although the 2 main names of the movement: Caetano Veloso & Gilberto Gil were later more identified with Latin Jazz or World Music. Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kazuhiro Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jul 2011 at 12:16am

The video that Guigo had put here yesterday was very significant for me. Thank you.

This thread serves as a reference very much.

By the way, I buy "Previsao Do Tempo" of Marcos Valle before and it has been understood that it is a very wonderful album. It was a very progressive album for the item of MPB. I think that "Garra" is also wonderful. However, "Previsao Do Tempo" is overwhelming. Perhaps, I thought that Azimuth performed.

 

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Kazuhiro-san, later I'll show some samples of what can be described as prog samba; actually the plain samba with influences borrowed from prog-rock via instruments and arrangements. 
The brain behind these songs were Rogério Duprat, that worked with Mutantes but later worked also with a bunch of samba singers and composers. Smile


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