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    Posted: 16 Jul 2011 at 9:30am
All right. How about a list of your top 5 (or more if you wish) live takes?

Feel free to jump around and in and out of genres, of course!   I'm quite interested, as I just finished listening to a live version of Freddie Hubbard's Red Clay and it tears the house down.   Sometimes the live versions of songs are simply better, or maybe the band tries a different tempo, or the solos have more passion, whatever it is, there's something about it.

So, what are yours? I'll update this post with my 5 later, snowed under at the moment but wanted to kick things off while I had a couple of minutes.

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Take Five
by Brubeck, from the Essential Jazz (Song) compilation. A snappier tempo, and a bit of extended soloing.

Red Clay
by Freddie Hubbard, from the Red Clay reissue. A harder, more vital cut. And they're having a blast playing it.

Winter in America 
by Gil Scott-Heron and Brian Jackson, from the Winter in America reissue. Wider palette of instruments and they're looser.

Sagg Shootin His Arrow by Jimmy Smith. Just great to hear the guitar and organ together in an almost rock, funk, fusion setting, stretching out the song nicely.

Man of Leo by Go (Stomu Yamash'ta) which has some superior soloing from Di Meola especially.



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The first album that comes to my mind is Miles' "At Fillmore (Fillmore East)", not be confused with the lesser "Black Beauty (Fillmore West)".
On the Fillmore East album, Miles and his band play the material from Bitches Brew, but with a lot more understanding of what they want from it. Far more aggressive, focused and avant-garde than Brew, its an amazing record that contains some oft criticized keyboard "battles" between Corea and Jarret. Although some critics describe their assault as indulgent, I think it reflects the nature early 70s fusion when being indulgent was OK and even encouraged. In today's world it can sound a bit dated, but what they do with the Brew material is pretty incredible.
I know that isn't five, but that is what's  hitting me right now. An old friend of mine had some live Charlie Parker recordings that just blow away a lot of studio work I have heard from him, unfortunately I was young and I can not recall the names of those recordings, but I hope to hook up with them again someday.
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^ thanks for reminding me, that first VSOP album is incredible, three of Herbie's best bands; the Miles quintet (with Hubbard replacing Miles), The Sextet and The Headhunters all playing their ass off in separate performances on the same day.
Some of my bop leaning friends thought the Quintet performances were kind of heavy handed and over the edge (ie rockish) but its still a fun energetic performance.
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Originally posted by js js wrote:

The first album that comes to my mind is Miles' "At Fillmore (Fillmore East)", not be confused with the lesser "Black Beauty (Fillmore West)".
On the Fillmore East album, Miles and his band play the material from Bitches Brew, but with a lot more understanding of what they want from it. Far more aggressive, focused and avant-garde than Brew, its an amazing record that contains some oft criticized keyboard "battles" between Corea and Jarret. Although some critics describe their assault as indulgent, I think it reflects the nature early 70s fusion when being indulgent was OK and even encouraged. In today's world it can sound a bit dated, but what they do with the Brew material is pretty incredible.
I know that isn't five, but that is what's  hitting me right now. An old friend of mine had some live Charlie Parker recordings that just blow away a lot of studio work I have heard from him, unfortunately I was young and I can not recall the names of those recordings, but I hope to hook up with them again someday.


Interested to hear the 'East' album actually, as I have Black Beauty and remember finding myself feeling like something lacked, so the east would be great, thank you John
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That live version of 'Hang Up your Hang Ups' is great too, thanks dwill123

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Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

That live version of 'Hang Up your Hang Ups' is great too, thanks dwill123

Here's the second song "Spider" from that album side (same group of musicians):
 
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While thinking about  the five, here's a few  that immediately flashup: 
Les Paul/Nat King Coles duo on Blues ex. Jazz At The Philharmonic 1944
Brecker/Pastorius: Dry Cleaner fro Des Moines (Joni Mitchell's Shadows & Light - alas the DVD of this is an arthouse f***-up)
Joe Morello: Castillian Drums:(ex. Dave Brubeck Quartet Carnegie Hall Live) - about the only drum solo I can now listen to and still get pleasure each time) - in fact Blue Rondo Ala Turka from the same set is a favourite (but I want to mix it for a top five)
Holdsworth/Pasqua: Fred (ex. Blues For Tony)  - Fred (aka Kinder) is my favourite Holdsworth, so how can I resist?
 
But a fifth I have to think about with the following coming to mind:
Shakti live,
Bugge Wesseltoft with John Schofield guesting,
Soft Machine's Third;
MIles Davis off We Want Miles or several others,
Nucleus's Snakehips Dream esp the rhyhm guitar of Chris Spedding (ex. Hemispheres)
................ the list may be huge,


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This is also subject to change:
1. Directions in Music: Live at Massey Hall - Michael Brecker
2. Twins - Jaco Pastorius
3. Miles in Tokyo - Miles Davis
4. Children of the Night - Hal Galper
5. Smokin at the Half Note - Wes Montgomery
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What's on "Miles in Tokyo" ?
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Cool, some stuff I've not come across before, very swell indeed Big smile
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Originally posted by js js wrote:

The first album that comes to my mind is Miles' "At Fillmore (Fillmore East)", not be confused with the lesser "Black Beauty (Fillmore West)".
On the Fillmore East album, Miles and his band play the material from Bitches Brew, but with a lot more understanding of what they want from it. Far more aggressive, focused and avant-garde than Brew, its an amazing record that contains some oft criticized keyboard "battles" between Corea and Jarret. Although some critics describe their assault as indulgent, I think it reflects the nature early 70s fusion when being indulgent was OK and even encouraged. In today's world it can sound a bit dated, but what they do with the Brew material is pretty incredible.
I know that isn't five, but that is what's  hitting me right now. An old friend of mine had some live Charlie Parker recordings that just blow away a lot of studio work I have heard from him, unfortunately I was young and I can not recall the names of those recordings, but I hope to hook up with them again someday.


Have you heard the Fillmore East album "It's About That Time", which came out a few years ago? It has similar lineup to the other 2 Fillmore albums, except Wayne Shorter was still in the band. I was familiar with Black Beauty and Fillmore East; and they're good. But there was something about Shorter being there, the performances were absolutely ferocious. I'm 99% sure that It's About That Time is from March 1970, At Fillmore is from April 1970, and Black Beauty is from June 1970
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Here's part of the 'Red Clay' take that I put in my list - everyone is playing better and soloing better and feeding off each other better than the studio cut. Safe to say I like it!




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This is close to the live version of Take Five that I really like


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lol I thought this was a new thread.

There are so many good live cuts, I can't narrow it down to only 5.

Five Peace Band - "Raju" and "In A Silent Way" are pretty sweet
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Smile I 're-found' it after realising that I hadn't finished uploading some videos to flesh out my own list

Five Peace Band - cool, will check out those versions for sure

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Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

lol I thought this was a new thread.

There are so many good live cuts, I can't narrow it down to only 5
 
I completely overlooked this topic, too.Embarrassed Probably Mike may enjoy this. This quality is overwhelming while being outdoor live broadcasting.

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^ I listened to the studio version of that song yesterday. This version is very good though.
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Yes. I have Illicit, too, but this live version is cool.
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A very high quality live recording there. Drummer is a machine, huh?
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