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    Posted: 23 May 2011 at 2:30pm
I went to a second hand record shop today and noticed how little I know about jazz before the bop era. So, which would be the essential artists and recordings to look into if I choose to expand my collection to the pre-50's stuff?
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Some very essential artirts of pre-bop would be:
Fletcher Henderson
Louis Armstrong
Duke Ellington
Ben Webster
Coleman Hawkins

Beautiful music from an era that is never coming back, enjoy!
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Whoops, I forgot Lester Young, pure magic.
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Thanks, I will check those out.
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In addition Jelly Roll Morten, Benny Goodman, Artie Shaw, and Count Basie also deserve a listen, along with many others
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Jelly Roll Morton is awesome
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Originally posted by js js wrote:

Some very essential artirts of pre-bop would be:
Fletcher Henderson
Louis Armstrong
Duke Ellington
Ben Webster
Coleman Hawkins

Beautiful music from an era that is never coming back, enjoy!
 
 
This is a sensible list, but I'm thinking that Glen Miller and the Benny Goodman-Lionel Hampton-Charlie Christian connection should get a mention in your list.
 
I was often subjected to this kind of jazz when a kid , because my father had a bunch of albums of the times and even brought me to two concerts when I was 5 or 8 . I saw Roland Kirk and Lionel Hampton in clubs in Brussels
 
 
However, I find it difficult to listen to pre-50's jazz nowadays... it's just so dated.... really sounds like oldtimer's music.  
 
 
 
 
 
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my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....

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Glenn Miller is awesome, and essential indeed. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote js Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 May 2011 at 9:35am
^ I'd probably go with the more rockin Count Basie. I have a couple Basie reviews up on here about how some of his music pre-dated early rock and RnB.
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Art Tatum!
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Don't forget Gershwin
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No one's mentioned Stephane Grappelli yet...
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

No one's mentioned Stephane Grappelli yet...
 
That man lasted a long time, especially when you consider the partner guitarists that book end Grapelli's career, Django Reinhart and John  Etheridge.
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Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

No one's mentioned Stephane Grappelli yet...
 
That man lasted a long time, especially when you consider the partner guitarists that book end Grapelli's career, Django Reinhart and John  Etheridge.
 
Yes, Grapelli and Reinhardt are one of rare examples of Europeans being able to break the US jazz-hegemony before WWII.
 
 


Edited by Sean Trane - 13 Jul 2011 at 3:58am
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....

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How about naming some landmark albums of early jazz recordings (yes I know albums didn't exist until the invention of the LP around 1950) that should be in jazz fan's collection, e.g.
 
Bennie Goodman: Legendary Carnegie Hall Recordings 1938
 
and If these still exist,  the Robert Armstrong remastered series, issued by the BBC in the 80's - the Bix Beiderbeck  one comes to mind.
 
I'm trying to nail the more important /essential Jazz At The Philaharmonic recordings (I have Nat King Cole/Les Paul brilliantly jamming, pity about a less than perfect transcription) - which seem to have been made through most of the 40's. This is the problem listening to BBC Radio 3's Jazz Records Requests - forgetting to write down tunes/musicians that appeal for those brief moments on Saturday afternoons.


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