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    Posted: 09 May 2011 at 1:46pm

It seems as though my favorite jazz albums are those that are "fronted" by the drummer such as Bill Bruford and Bruford's Earthworks, and Dave Weckl's solo albums.  I've heard one Billy Cobham album and I really like that.  I also like Brand X with Phil Collins.  With older jazz I seem to prefer the music of drummers like Buddy Rich and even Gene Krupa over the horn legends like Miles Davis or John Coltrane.  What other jazz drummers are there that I am missing that I should be checking out? 



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I'd say the two best that you might like based on what you already like are Tony Williams and Jack DeJohnette.
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Thank you.  I've heard of both of them, but to date I haven't checked them out yet.  I've heard good things about Tony Williams' Lifetime.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote js Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2011 at 2:06pm
If you want to hear DeJohnette at his best, check out live Miles albums like 'Live at Fillmore' or 'Live Evil'. No one else plays the drums like that.
Another good live drummer album is 'Shabazz'  by Cobham
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rushfan4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2011 at 2:15pm

I definitely need to check out more Cobham.  I only have By Design from his "solo" albums.

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Elvin Jones is a legendary drummer.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote js Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2011 at 3:00pm
^ yes he is, his work with Coltrane is sort of the bridge between those older drummers you like and someone like DeJohnette.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rushfan4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2011 at 3:02pm
Interesting.  In 1999, Jones worked with Our Lady Peace on their album Happiness...Is Not a Fish That You Can Catch. He was featured playing drums on the song "Stealing Babies", which was also featured on their 2009 compilation album The Very Best of Our Lady Peace
 
I am listening to this track now.
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He is also originally from Pontiac, MI, which is where I had dinner on Saturday night.  I don't remember hearing his name before, which is strange since he is from the vicinity. 
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Is there any jazz with heavy drumming except that Fusion that lies more on the rock side? 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote darkshade Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2011 at 3:29pm
This album

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote js Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2011 at 3:29pm
I'm not sure what you mean by heavy drumming, whats an example of that?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote harmonium.ro Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2011 at 3:39pm
Originally posted by js js wrote:

I'm not sure what you mean by heavy drumming, whats an example of that?


Well I can't give you any because I really don't know any examples. LOL But I've read this expression a lot, and also "heavy on the drums". IDN, "powerful" drumming? Drumming in jazz is usually subtle. (Again, I'm ignoring Jazz-Rock of course).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote js Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2011 at 3:53pm
^ Ronald Shannon Jackson comes to mind. His work with Last Exit is very heavy on the drums, but Last Exit is almost more like noise-rock than jazz, but they are all jazz players.
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The technology and individuality might be various depending on the drum player. Elvin Jones and Jack DeJohnette that opinions gather are already wonderful musicians. The performance was always reformative of course.

I recommend Bill Stewart as a drum player these days. He thinks that the rhythm of jazz was really evolved.

Or, I think that Shelly Manne and Philliy Joe Jones are good if looking for from traditional jazz.

And, if it is an expert of the wire brush, Ed Thigpen might be wonderful.

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Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Is there any jazz with heavy drumming except that Fusion that lies more on the rock side? 


Buddy Rich.
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Originally posted by triceratopsoil triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Is there any jazz with heavy drumming except that Fusion that lies more on the rock side? 


Buddy Rich.

Max Roach?
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A musician not often mentioned for his drumming (other things for sure) is Lionel Hampton.  He was a fantastic jazz drummer.
 
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Two names worth checkin
Trilok Gurtu
Manu Katche
I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ...
Ken Burns
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Originally posted by Prog Geo Prog Geo wrote:

Elvin Jones is a legendary drummer.
 
The amazing part is that he really banged on those skins...
 
During sets, his wife (acting as a roadie) had to push back the drum set some two fzeet backwards, because her hubby drove the kit frontwards from hitting it so much >>> mind you in the 60's, those drum kits were much lighter than the monsters of the 70's.
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