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    Posted: 27 Jan 2011 at 10:50pm
The continuous patterns, inspired urgency, stamina and power, it's a hardbop masterpiece, there's little doubt.   This was the first LP with all-original Coltrane tracks, and evidently the music is a rite of passage for jazz players to improvise over.  The alternate takes are good too but I think John chose wisely for the final cut.

Discuss, and also: what's your favorite Coltrane release and why?-- and I'm looking for your personal fave, not necessarily the one you think was best produced or most important.  Live albums count.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote js Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jan 2011 at 11:22pm
My favorite Coltrane is the early modal stuff like India and also some of the all-out free jazz with large ensembles he did too. The chaotic orchestral sounds of his large ensemble free jazz pieces was a sound hardly heard much before, it was fascinating even if you didn't totally get it, I used to have 'OM' on 8 track tape to listen to while cruising, ha ha ha.
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Om is something, it's out there.. if you can enjoy Om I'd say you can enjoy almost anything (Brötzmann anyone? Big smile)


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Its best on 8-track Cool
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John Coltrane after it had resigned from the Miles Davis group might have been announced continuing a really overwhelming album.

I am and there are some personally favorite albums. It is difficult for me to limit it of course. However, "Live At the Village Vanguard Again"and "Expression"Overwhelming.

I feel these performances block his essence and evolution. His regular group in the 60's might be steady. However, his work of later years feels something transcended to some degree.

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Call me common, but A Love Supreme is a particular favourite Coltrane album, though I love Ascension and Giant Steps too.
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I'd call you Greg, or maybe Logan, but never common.
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Probably not a popular choice, but I always liked the Ballads album.  (I realize it may be an unintentional early predecessor to the smooth jazz of the 70's and beyond.)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote js Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jan 2011 at 7:24pm
looks like you'll be the first person kicked off the site  Wink  LOL
just kidding, i love a good jazz ballad


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Originally posted by EZ Money EZ Money wrote:

looks like you'll be the first person kicked off the site  Wink  LOL
just kidding, i love a good jazz ballad
Haha, rule = 'Viagra or Nigerian Lottery or Ballads' = auto delete.
 
Really though, it is a fine album.  In my college days...a sophomore babe, a bottle of wine,  Ballads or Willie Nelson's Stardust...
 
 
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in listening to Trane's many albums, one wonders how much rehearsal and planning, if any, went into some of them.. it often sounds as if they were at the studio, hit the mics and just started playing, and the good takes were used for LPs--  closer to the way the Blues cats recorded

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote js Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jan 2011 at 9:43pm
According to something I read before said a lot of those Jimmy Smith blues jazz songs he recorded were just things he made up on the spot in the studio that were based around well known blues changes and the musicians involved were expected to just fall in and get with it.
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ah another jazz masterpiece recorded in 1959 (but released 1960)

Giant Steps might be my favorite, but i havent listened to the man's music in a good while. I'll be back
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Giant Steps is one of my fave Trane albums, no doubt.
 
Besides A Love Supreme, I'd say My Favorite Things is my other absolute fave, the title track is one of the most brilliant music ever delivered. But it's tough though, most of his 57-65 period is pure gold.
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Thanks to David/Atavachron for some recs, my current Coltrane collection is as follows:

A Love Supreme
Ascension
Dakar
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The Complete Africa/Brass Sessions


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Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Thanks to David/Atavachron for some recs, my current Coltrane collection is as follows:

A Love Supreme
Ascension
Dakar
Giant Steps
The Complete Africa/Brass Sessions



Care to point out which one you liked best, and if you didn't like one of those at all. 
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I still have yet to listen to a couple of them (Dakar, Africa/Brass).  Thought Ascension was pure brilliance, which shouldn't come as a shock to those that even somewhat know my tastes.  Need more listens to all of it to form a good opinion.
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Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

I still have yet to listen to a couple of them (Dakar, Africa/Brass).  Thought Ascension was pure brilliance, which shouldn't come as a shock to those that even somewhat know my tastes.  Need more listens to all of it to form a good opinion.

I see, you might be interested in checking out stuff like Interstellar Space which is only drums and sax, just imagine it haha.

You know I'm not a fan of free jazz/avant garde, so I'm more fond of his pre-65 stuff in general. 
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Blue Train for me.  My Favourite Things next.  I don't like his later ones much like Ascension, Transition etc. I love his quartet or quintet stuff from Impulse the best. Live at the Vanguard, Africa, Chim Chim Cheree, Crescent, up to Sunship.
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Originally posted by Matt Matt wrote:

Blue Train for me.  My Favourite Things next.  I don't like his later ones much like Ascension, Transition etc. I love his quartet or quintet stuff from Impulse the best. Live at the Vanguard, Africa, Chim Chim Cheree, Crescent, up to Sunship.

Yeah me too. There's the ocassional surprisingly good album from the free era, say 'First Meditations' is very restrained from squealings and pure chatoic moments, unlike the original 'Meditations'. 
'Stellar Regions' and 'Expressions' also have some pleasant moments, even a track with Coltrane on flute all through.

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