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Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Originally posted by Cannonball With Hat Cannonball With Hat wrote:

Wow. Surprised to see Milestones in there.
 
And yes...good to see some Mingus up there.


I was a little too - I like the album and it's important in the development of the modal approach, but I didn't expect it the way I expect KOB to be there

 
If i'm honest I"d like to see a little more diversity in the top 5 (maybe some monk or Duke), bbut can't really complain about MD in a jazz top 5 Tongue
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Kazuhiro Kazuhiro wrote:

^ I think "In The Sky" and "Kilimanjaro" to be indispensable to study these a series of situation likewise. A thought and the expression that Miles went before to enter into in the 70s are very remarkable with these albums. I feel that these are not at all incompletions to BB album.
 
I tend to slide in Miles In The Sky between Kilimandjaro and IASW, in Miles' electric progression
 
As the artwork hints, it's got a certain kind psych quality to it, that brings it rather close to BB
 
 
I think Miles to have always found new music. And it is a fact to have recognized the musician such as Jimi and Sly equally. Probably he would take all in. Album art of In The Sky. As for the contest by George Benson and Keith Jarrett likewise. It would be thrown all open by the filter which lasted of Miles.
 
I agree
 
I remember seeing the Miles in the Sky cover and thinking it would be good, just based on the image (i know, nevr judg a book...)
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Cannonball With Hat Cannonball With Hat wrote:

Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Originally posted by Cannonball With Hat Cannonball With Hat wrote:

Wow. Surprised to see Milestones in there.
 
And yes...good to see some Mingus up there.


I was a little too - I like the album and it's important in the development of the modal approach, but I didn't expect it the way I expect KOB to be there

 
If i'm honest I"d like to see a little more diversity in the top 5 (maybe some monk or Duke), bbut can't really complain about MD in a jazz top 5 Tongue
 
Yeah, Miles earned it, huh? Which Monk would you place in there?
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Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Originally posted by Kazuhiro Kazuhiro wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Kazuhiro Kazuhiro wrote:

^ I think "In The Sky" and "Kilimanjaro" to be indispensable to study these a series of situation likewise. A thought and the expression that Miles went before to enter into in the 70s are very remarkable with these albums. I feel that these are not at all incompletions to BB album.
 
I tend to slide in Miles In The Sky between Kilimandjaro and IASW, in Miles' electric progression
 
As the artwork hints, it's got a certain kind psych quality to it, that brings it rather close to BB
 
 
I think Miles to have always found new music. And it is a fact to have recognized the musician such as Jimi and Sly equally. Probably he would take all in. Album art of In The Sky. As for the contest by George Benson and Keith Jarrett likewise. It would be thrown all open by the filter which lasted of Miles.
 
I agree
 
I remember seeing the Miles in the Sky cover and thinking it would be good, just based on the image (i know, nevr judg a book...)
 
 
 


I love Miles In The Sky. Thing is, aside from the first track which is a nice slice of early fusion, and the inclusion of guitarist George Benson on track 2, it's still more or less the avant-garde post-bop of his second great quintet on tracks 2, 3, and 4. Filles... is half post-bop and half fusion, and then In A Silent Way is Miles going full force into fusion, albeit on the mellower side. It wouldn't be until the following album Bitches Brew where Miles' exploration of fusion exploded.
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Good point, Mike.
I also often wonder whether Benson and Miles could have done more together, or whether their styles don't seem like a natural fit?  Actually no, rather, that some aspects of their respective styles weren't a fit?
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There might be really some trial and error before McLaughlin joined it. Benson does not really do the performance that exploded very much. As for it, Benson seems to be looking for the place to stay of own definitely. However, as a result, "In The Sky" may have a certain experimental element. And I feel that the performance that does not harmonize acts well.
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Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Good point, Mike.
I also often wonder whether Benson and Miles could have done more together, or whether their styles don't seem like a natural fit?  Actually no, rather, that some aspects of their respective styles weren't a fit?
I have heard that Benson didn't care for the lifestyle and drug use. Benson tends to be a clean religious man.
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Originally posted by js js wrote:

Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Good point, Mike.
I also often wonder whether Benson and Miles could have done more together, or whether their styles don't seem like a natural fit?  Actually no, rather, that some aspects of their respective styles weren't a fit?
I have heard that Benson didn't care for the lifestyle and drug use. Benson tends to be a clean religious man.
 
 
Well stylistically speaking, Benson's early CTI albums are millions of miles away from BB or OnThe Corner
 
But would Benson have covered such drug-induced Jeff Air tracks like White Rabbit
 
And I'm definitely not convince his So What reprise did a lot of good to the original KOB version.
 
 
 
my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....

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Looks like In A Silent Way got bumped down a few notches. Kind of Blue is now #1. I wonder what happened?
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^ Those two often fight it out for number one, huh?
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Originally posted by idlero idlero wrote:

I was 'blocked', I found it too 'heavy' for me,even today it's not on my top 10 or even 20.At that time I enjoyed Bill Evans, Ben Webster, Dave Brubeck , EST


I can see that, as coming from EST and Bill, Dave etc. It's kinda one hell of a rich-sounding album too, and 'heavy' I find a fitting word, it is at that.

What's your top Miles album, idlero?

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IASW is one of those albums I've never appreciated as much as other people seem to... I love it, without a doubt, but I don't seem to have the same passion for it a lot of other jazzers do. When I want electric Miles, I usually end up reaching for Bitches Brew. 


I end up reaching for BB when I'm after electric too - but also for a bit of darkness I guess!

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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by js js wrote:

Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Good point, Mike.
I also often wonder whether Benson and Miles could have done more together, or whether their styles don't seem like a natural fit?  Actually no, rather, that some aspects of their respective styles weren't a fit?
I have heard that Benson didn't care for the lifestyle and drug use. Benson tends to be a clean religious man.
 
 
Well stylistically speaking, Benson's early CTI albums are millions of miles away from BB or OnThe Corner
 
But would Benson have covered such drug-induced Jeff Air tracks like White Rabbit
 
And I'm definitely not convince his So What reprise did a lot of good to the original KOB version.
 


Ah, I can see that about Benson, steering clear of that scene. Sure, it'd be great to play with Miles etc but if you don't like the lifestyle, you won't be happy etc etc etc

I agree Sean, that's why it strikes me as an interesting pairing - such difference between the two
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Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Originally posted by idlero idlero wrote:

I was 'blocked', I found it too 'heavy' for me,even today it's not on my top 10 or even 20.At that time I enjoyed Bill Evans, Ben Webster, Dave Brubeck , EST


I can see that, as coming from EST and Bill, Dave etc. It's kinda one hell of a rich-sounding album too, and 'heavy' I find a fitting word, it is at that.

What's your top Miles album, idlero?


Can't say , I barely listen to Miles
I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ...
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^ how about, what albums of his do you own? Smile
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I take the Fifth LOL
I think the problem with a lot of the fusion music is that it's extremely predictable, it's a rock rhythm and the solos all play the same stuff and they play it over and over again ...
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^ heh, it's not much different.
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That's interesting indeed. Later I might try find another site's top5. Mingus rises again
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